Love my new m5... BUT steering vibration!!!

[LAKEOM5]

$5 says it goes away in a week or two.

My first drive in my M5 had me thinking WTF because the vibration through the wheel was rough.

Shortly after it was gone. Be patient.

[ColdList]

Try this. Put the steering in Comfort mode. I don't know if this fixes it but at first my car had this. I now use comfort steering and it is gone. Not sure of switching to comfort fixed it or if it just went away.

There are some threads on this board where we discuss proper settings and this is a key one. The "Sport+ steering was designed purely for straight line high speed acceleration (ie: Autobahn). At BMW Performance centers they track the car in comfort steering. Frankly, it changes the car dramatically and makes it massively more fun to drive. The "heavy" feel of the car instantly disappears. I was very reluctant to even try this as coming form an E60 I always had everything in Sport+ so this seemed counter-intuitive. The SECOND I changed everything I fell in love with the car. My current settings are Sport+ Throttle / Sport Suspension ? Comfort Steering although I have been told the Comfort Suspension is best for this car on the road for everyday driving and on the track as well. I just can't make myself take it off of Sport-lol! I will do so as soon as my H&R springs are installed.

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by stealth.pilot

EPS doesn't cause understeer. Understeer is caused by tire size choices, weight distribution and balance. Mercedes engineers their cars to understeer because their conservative drivers would freak out if they had a car with oversteer. The Black series is obviously designed more like a BMW.

My Dinan 550i had more of an oversteer characteristic with stock tires.

The 911 doesn't have an understeer issue either.

Agree with all points. I might not have been all so clear in my post though. I have had 7 AMG's two of which were the exact same chassis and weight distribution along with suspension and tire setup (both with different steering). Clearly to me, the electronic steering held the car back in higher speed bends than did the hydraulic variant... These were both E63's. Either way both cars dont have the same steering feel that my 6 M's have had.

Just my ownership experience.

[mcvaughan]

Originally Posted by clar

The front passenger seat belt clip that bangs against the B-pillar causing that annoying rattle

I hate this!!! I move my passenger seat up close to eliminate this!

[clar]

Originally Posted by mcvaughan

I hate this!!! I move my passenger seat up close to eliminate this!

You can either pull the seat belt and latch it on the passenger seat's side bolster or paste any chair leg glide (black) stick-ons on the B-pillar to cushion away the noise.

[Timberwolf]

Originally Posted by ColdList

Try this. Put the steering in Comfort mode. I don't know if this fixes it but at first my car had this. I now use comfort steering and it is gone. Not sure of switching to comfort fixed it or if it just went away.

Sadly, this does absolutely nothing. BMW AG has asked that I have a technician experience the issue, and then we go from there...

[ColdList]

Originally Posted by Timberwolf

Sadly, this does absolutely nothing. BMW AG has asked that I have a technician experience the issue, and then we go from there...

Ugh...yeah, was not sure if that was what corrected mine. I definitely had it and it made my hand numb. I guess it just went away on it's own. Really not such a good thing to be overlooked. How does it get past inspections when it seems so prominent?

[clar]

Originally Posted by Timberwolf

Sadly, this does absolutely nothing. BMW AG has asked that I have a technician experience the issue, and then we go from there...

Stop thinking about it and enjoy driving the car. Trust me on this, you won't notice it after a while. It does indeed go away with around 4k mile on the clock.

[racer10]

Originally Posted by Timberwolf

Sadly, this does absolutely nothing. BMW AG has asked that I have a technician experience the issue, and then we go from there...

My service technican acknowledged that while they re-balanced all 4 wheels (that were in his words only out by a tiny margin), that the vibration was less(not to me) but still there even after the re-balancing excersize . I plan on bringing my car back into service in a week to have them go back and try to address this issue again with hopefully another solution. Fortunately I don't do alot of highway driving where this vibration/hum is quite annoying.

[Timberwolf]

Originally Posted by ColdList

I definitely had it and it made my hand numb.

This just doesn't sit right with me!

[ColdList]

Originally Posted by clar

Stop thinking about it and enjoy driving the car. Trust me on this, you won't notice it after a while. It does indeed go away with around 4k mile on the clock.

Have to agree here. Mine only has 2,600 miles on it and the vibration has been gone for quite a while. I am actually quite sure that it went away prior to my 1,200 mi service. In fact, I know it did. Drive it and enjoy it. Seems it has fixed itself for everyone else.

[v3n0m]

I'm at 2500 miles and still getting this. Anyone ever have any luck solving this issue proactively? During long trips, it makes my hands numb.

[clar]

Originally Posted by v3n0m

I'm at 2500 miles and still getting this. Anyone ever have any luck solving this issue proactively? During long trips, it makes my hands numb.

Have you tried balancing your front tires?

[v3n0m]

Ya. They rebalanced all 4 on road force and it still seems to be happening.

[clar]

Originally Posted by v3n0m

Ya. They rebalanced all 4 on road force and it still seems to be happening.

It will go away. Give it another thousand miles or something

[JOHNBMWM5]

Originally Posted by Timberwolf

Thank you.. I read that, and it "seems" mileage rectifies this...
Can't believe bmw would deliver a car with this....

My LCI does not have this at all, I would be inclined to take it in personally, also the 2013 M5 I had for a week before buying did NOT do this at all and it was brand new (April build).

[racer10]

No the 2014 does not have the tuning fork vibration issue . I test drove 5 different ones over the course of 2 weeks from different dealers. However, the bottom seat cushion no longer tilts up as high as the 2013 model year (important for taller drivers I am 6'2"). Unfortunately 1 positive and 1 negative = 0 for me regarding two of my most important comfort issues . I stopped all negotiating and will ????

[Timberwolf]

Originally Posted by racer10

No the 2014 does not have the tuning fork vibration issue . I test drove 5 different ones over the course of 2 weeks from different dealers. However, the bottom seat cushion no longer tilts up as high as the 2013 model year (important for taller drivers I am 6'2"). Unfortunately 1 positive and 1 negative = 0 for me regarding two of my most important comfort issues . I stopped all negotiating and will ????

Very interesting. I'm hoping my dealer can now repair the issue. Thanks for sharing!!

[v3n0m]

Hey Timberwolf, so your issue is still around? How many miles do you have on your car?

[Timberwolf]

Originally Posted by v3n0m

Hey Timberwolf, so your issue is still around? How many miles do you have on your car?

I have 8000 or so miles total and status... I'm going to have my friend who works for the dealer take a 14 out to confirm the change, then go from there. The weather is lousier here so I'm spending less time in the car now.

[stealth.pilot]

Originally Posted by Timberwolf

I have 8000 or so miles total and status... I'm going to have my friend who works for the dealer take a 14 out to confirm the change, then go from there. The weather is lousier here so I'm spending less time in the car now.

I'm astonished that you still have this issue. I would have lemoned the car if I was in your situation.

The issue is not a 2013 car issue - it's particular to your and racer10s cars. You have lemons. Both my 2013 and 2014 M5s have equally smooth vibration free steering. They feel the same.

Your car sounds lemon law eligible. if after the third attempt the problem still exists, then you should send written notice to fix the car through a lemon law attorney. BMW will be required to fix the car within 10 days or buy it back for a very high percentage of the original price.

Lemon law is awesome.

http://www.lemonlawamerica.com/flori...w-statutes.htm

[MichaelJohn]

CNET's car reviewer, Brian Cooley, complained quite pointedly about this vibration in his otherwise positive and enjoyable review. i remember him saying that BMW had better get this fixed. When I first took my car on the freeway, sure enough, it was there and it freaked me out. However, it went away so quickly that I don't remember feeling it much past the first few drives. Now the whistling driver's side mirror…