Rod bearing failure --> New engine

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by finlandm5f10

LL04 IS DIESEL OIL!!!!!!!!!!
LL01 is correct oil M5 f10 no mater which age. 2011 or 2017

Nah mate for gasoline/petrol AND diesel, look again LOL

[Pikey Motorsports]

Originally Posted by finlandm5f10

LL04 IS DIESEL OIL!!!!!!!!!!
LL01 is correct oil M5 f10 no mater which age. 2011 or 2017

Where did you get this information

LL04 is what bmw run in m5

[Herofmine]

Guys use motul 5w40 and change your oil every 4-5k miles.

[BM dnobagaV]

See, these are the issues that keep me from pulling the trigger tomorrow for the next pretty e39, e60, or f06 that I find. Constant personal struggle...

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Herofmine

Guys use motul 5w40 and change your oil every 4-5k miles.

I would only use an oil with designation 0-30 or maybe 0-40,the thinner viscosity ensures quicker circulation than a 5W or 10W at startup when cold,the most critical time and especially with those tight tolerance rod bearings.

[bruiser135msport]

Longlife-04 oils must not be used in BMW spark-ignition engines in
countries outside Europe (EU plus Switzerland, Norway and Liechtenstein).


5) Longlife-04 oils are only approved for spark-ignition engines in Europe (EU plus Switzerland, Norway
and Liechtenstein). They must not be used outside this area.

Therefore, for petrol engines, use only oils designated BMW Longlife-01 or BMW LL-01

LL-1 oils are for high sulfur content fuels - as in USA fuels.

LL-4 oil is for low sulfur content fuels - as in Germany/Europe fuels

Cheers
Bruce

[technician117]

Originally Posted by BM dnobagaV

See, these are the issues that keep me from pulling the trigger tomorrow for the next pretty e39, e60, or f06 that I find. Constant personal struggle...

Most of these "issues" are overblown because of the internet. Sure there are known cases of failure in all generations. I can say from years of experience that the S62 in the E39 is very reliable. 282k on mine. Never been opened up beyond superficial gaskets like valvecovers.

[Herofmine]

Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

I would only use an oil with designation 0-30 or maybe 0-40,the thinner viscosity ensures quicker circulation than a 5W or 10W at startup when cold,the most critical time and especially with those tight tolerance rod bearings.

0-40 too thin for this engine, it gets very hot
With 5w 40 my car does not require to add oil.

[Jasoneo5]

Are we recommending NOT to use 5w 30?

[M5Rick]

I don't mind topping up every 1500 to 1800 mi knowing that my oil is covering every single surface in that engine on startup.That rod bearing gap is thinner than a human hair, go figure.

[BMWM5NYC]

Originally Posted by Jasoneo5

Are we recommending NOT to use 5w 30?

That is what I have used from day one. My car originally came with 5w30.

[finlandm5f10]

[QUOTE=bruiser135msport;24142013]Longlife-04 oils must not be used in BMW spark-ignition engines in
countries outside Europe (EU plus Switzerland, Norway and Liechtenstein).


5) Longlife-04 oils are only approved for spark-ignition engines in Europe (EU plus Switzerland, Norway
and Liechtenstein). They must not be used outside this area.

Therefore, for petrol engines, use only oils designated BMW Longlife-01 or BMW LL-01

LL-1 oils are for high sulfur content fuels - as in USA fuels.

LL-4 oil is for low sulfur content fuels - as in Germany/Europe fuels

LL1 is ACEA A3/B3/B4 and this is corect oil every M5 f10

LL4 is ACEA C3 and it is NOT corect oil in M5 f10

[M5Rick]

[QUOTE=finlandm5f10;24143783]

Originally Posted by bruiser135msport

Longlife-04 oils must not be used in BMW spark-ignition engines in
countries outside Europe (EU plus Switzerland, Norway and Liechtenstein).


5) Longlife-04 oils are only approved for spark-ignition engines in Europe (EU plus Switzerland, Norway
and Liechtenstein). They must not be used outside this area.

Therefore, for petrol engines, use only oils designated BMW Longlife-01 or BMW LL-01

LL-1 oils are for high sulfur content fuels - as in USA fuels.

LL-4 oil is for low sulfur content fuels - as in Germany/Europe fuels

LL1 is ACEA A3/B3/B4 and this is corect oil every M5 f10

LL4 is ACEA C3 and it is NOT corect oil in M5 f10

You state that LL04 oil is fine in Europe so what exactly is your point?

[bruiser135msport]

G’day
My point is this :

in Europe LL-04 can be used in place of LL-01, so you could theoretically say that an oil meets both. But that is not the case in the US.

LL-01 can be used with both high-sulfur as well as low-sulfur gas. LL-04 should only be used with low sulfur gas, if you're going to be following the OLM.

[bruiser135msport]

G’day
See link here for full technical details and explanation :

https://blog.bavauto.com/20768/bmw-a...l-01-vs-ll-04/

Cheers
Bruce

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by bruiser135msport

G’day
My point is this :

in Europe LL-04 can be used in place of LL-01, so you could theoretically say that an oil meets both. But that is not the case in the US.

LL-01 can be used with both high-sulfur as well as low-sulfur gas. LL-04 should only be used with low sulfur gas, if you're going to be following the OLM.

Thanks Bruce.

[finlandm5f10]

[QUOTE=M5theonlyone;24144015]

Originally Posted by finlandm5f10

You state that LL04 oil is fine in Europe so what exactly is your point?

Never mind.

[Pikey Motorsports]

Lol

[mister2d]

Originally Posted by Herofmine

0-40 too thin for this engine, it gets very hot
With 5w 40 my car does not require to add oil.

Negative. That's what BMW put in my replacement engine (0W-30). Likely due to my local climate.

[finlandm5f10]

Originally Posted by mister2d

Negative. That's what BMW put in my replacement engine (0W-30). Likely due to my local climate.

In Europe 5w40

[Lmaiuri]

Motul 10W-60


Close thread.

[Pikey Motorsports]

Never seen so many people using so many different oils in a car lol