Merry Early Christmas...OBD flashing for Fxx BMW models is finally here!

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by Celestion

Really though, the question you asked was profoundly lazy. It was much more fun to tease you than to actually answer your question.

FIXED- ( I Removed the " no offense " portion above. )

Thank you! - the passive aggression police

P.S. I agree !

[ASAP]

So can anyone confirm this is not a ZCP / GTS factory tune?

[MissionPerformance]

[QUOTE=MilehighM3;22510018]

Originally Posted by MissionPerformance

Software alone can yield 180+ whp in gains, but race gas, intakes and downpipe combo are only +75? Once again, there's a red flag here.

Since you seem to push the platform maybe you can inform us at what level of whp the stock rods bend? What can the stock clutches hold up to?

So if I wanted to pull the trigger on a tune right now, you can deliver 700whp to me without question since you have the ability and the software tools?

If you check out our site, you will see a dyno plot from a 2013 M5 with just axleback and our tune. That was done well over a year ago and since then we found ways to crank up a bit more power from 2015+ S63. That is one of many customers that are putting down these numbers.

Now, yes it's possible to hit 150whp+ on just a tune and only 75whp more by going downpipes, intakes and race gas. And why do you think that is? Well answer is very simple. Like I said before, we run out of turbo's ability to "pump" as wastegate is at 100% at around 700whp. After that, when we introduce race gas, downpipes, and intakes, we are optimizing the efficiency of the motor. Different VANOS angles, more valve lift, more timing (closer to 20degress at 6k vs 12degress on our stage 1 tune), and list goes on. Is that safe? Hell no! But for customers in Middle East that want to have the highest number possible that doesn't matter and to us that is just a proof of concept.

And to answer your question, rods don't bent at certain whp. You can bend them at 620whp as easily as at 700whp. What bends the rods is torque and "events" like spark blow out and detonation. Generally speaking you should be safe at around 680wheel torque or so on stock rods, but that doesn't give you much room for error in case of spark blowout. At 700wheel torque you still are fine but you better have tight gaps and good gas.

Stock clutches can handle 650torque on rescaled torque map flash OR 700wheel on properly calibrated torque map flash. That is not something I'll be going it I but instead research it if you would like. But now we are working on a new flash for DKG that will allow us to apply more pressure to clutches, thus increasing their holding capacity.

[schnell1982]

[QUOTE=MilehighM3;22509268]

Originally Posted by schnell1982

Let's see an overlay with your stock run, SAE correction and no smoothing. Also let's see engine bay pics including the stock down pipes. With all due respect, I call BS.

I have downpipes on mine.
And Yes its a stock engine bay. I don't have a stock dyno graph as I had a tune from a previous tuner GSR Technik which was garbage.
Mission Performance was sourced out by the shop and he came out and re-tuned the ECU's.
I also have 3.5bar sensors but there are tuners not using those so its irrelevant.
The power is there and there are other tuners doing 700WHP tunes as well if requested
Of course rod bearing shells, clutches and somethings are not going to last at that power for too long until replaced

[TheHouseWon]

What is DKG?

[twin fed]

So will this be available for the F87 platform?

[terryM4]

Subed

[MissionPerformance]

Originally Posted by TheHouseWon

What is DKG?

Doppelkupplungsgetriebe, aka DCT.

Originally Posted by twin fed

So will this be available for the F87 platform?

Yep, it uses N55 engine with MEVD17 family computer, so yeas, it will be available.

[cuthang]

Sorry for noob questions is this kind similar to COBB Tuning?

[Mr_M5Guy]

So how soon before you can flash my new acquired M6GC?

[Mr_M5Guy]

And do you have any partners in NC?

[MissionPerformance]

Originally Posted by Mr_M5Guy

So how soon before you can flash my new acquired M6GC?

Very soon, as early as Christmas

[apexlocator]

I dynoed 680who 710wtq on a mission tune, stock turbos. Follow Alex's advice on power levels and you'll be good

[Roadkiller]

Is there any work done on the G30 models like the M550i xDrive? I believe its the N63tu engine.

[MissionPerformance]

Originally Posted by Roadkiller

Is there any work done on the G30 models like the M550i xDrive? I believe its the N63tu engine.

Not yet, that engine code is N63TU2 and uses completely different computer family.

[FSociety]

Sub'!

[maddoc]

F87 M2 support? Any ideas on costs?

[markymark666]

What about a late 2013 M135i full stock.
What can be done with your method?

[DragonGate]

Curious as to why this thread got to front page?
What has Mission done on the forums since 2014 ?
What cars do they have with proper dyno's showing baseline + tune ?
What cars if ANY have ran the 1/4 mile anywhere in the world?
Even simple friendly runs? None exist
Where are all the Forums customers? other than the usual (His assistant) F10 535 and 1 or 2 M5 at most.
And his 550 (it seems)
*Other Tuners that are known, have all the above*

Where are the rest ? BMW has M235, 335, 435, 640, 550, 650, X3, X4, X5, X6
Tons of threads with *So called* discoveries and little to NO results.

Don't mean anything other than where is the proof ? Why should I or anyone go with this particular tooner?

You guys believe anything way too quick.

But I'll sit and wait for RESULTS! not speculations as thats all it seems to be (just look at the threads) as much I want to throw my money since my next car is going to be on order soon (Debating on M550 or X3 M40i) "Lease is coming up for the X5M"

PS... Tool gets released by MagicMotorSport and ChipTuning then gets sold to Mass, Mission the first US Dealer perhaps.

[MissionPerformance]

Originally Posted by Gong

Curious as to why this thread got to front page?
What has Mission done on the forums since 2014 ?
What cars do they have with proper dyno's showing baseline + tune ?
What cars if ANY have ran the 1/4 mile anywhere in the world?
Even simple friendly runs? None exist
Where are all the Forums customers? other than the usual (His assistant) F10 535 and 1 or 2 M5 at most.
And his 550 (it seems)
*Other Tuners that are known, have all the above*

Where are the rest ? BMW has M235, 335, 435, 640, 550, 650, X3, X4, X5, X6
Tons of threads with *So called* discoveries and little to NO results.

Don't mean anything other than where is the proof ? Why should I or anyone go with this particular tooner?

You guys believe anything way too quick.

But I'll sit and wait for RESULTS! not speculations as thats all it seems to be (just look at the threads) as much I want to throw my money since my next car is going to be on order soon (Debating on M550 or X3 M40i) "Lease is coming up for the X5M"

PS... Tool gets released by MagicMotorSport and ChipTuning then gets sold to Mass, Mission the first US Dealer perhaps.

I'm wondering if this is a backed up statement by fact or just an opinion? We dont have proper dynos? Really now? No discoveries? How about you ask your tuner how they came about to properly calibrating your sport displays on your M2, lets see how honest they can be. 2 M5s? Really? Come on now, lets not go there. If you would like to put your money where your mouth is, we will gladly entertain this topic, but until then, Im glad you are happy with BM3 and there is nothing more to that.

[DragonGate]

Originally Posted by MissionPerformance

I'm wondering if this is a backed up statement by fact or just an opinion? We dont have proper dynos? Really now? No discoveries? How about you ask your tuner how they came about to properly calibrating your sport displays on your M2, lets see how honest they can be. 2 M5s? Really? Come on now, lets not go there. If you would like to put your money where your mouth is, we will gladly entertain this topic, but until then, Im glad you are happy with BM3 and there is nothing more to that.

thank you that's all i wanted to know , still many questions unanswered

but looking forward to seeing results

[TheHouseWon]

Apexlocator and Epiphanyray are very happy with their Mission tune