Full E85 or Meth+Race Fuel

tonydat1 · 08-14-2019, 04:13 PM

So far everyone has done meth with race fuel with good results; however, only a few cars have done full E85 (one being fuel-it themselves) but no data has been released for that.

I'm debating to see if I should try full E85 or continue on with meth/race fuel as everyone else has done with results. E85 is easily accessible here in Dallas where as I'd have to buy drums of race fuel to use. What are some pros/cons of going each route? Opinions needed!

Mods include forged motor; PS2 turbo, exhaust, DP. Drivetrain items have been upgraded as well.

Pikey Motorsports · 08-15-2019, 01:30 PM

Join are WhatsApp group there are plenty of big power builds and tuners in there! Will probably get better advice there

tonydat1 · 08-15-2019, 05:26 PM

Send me the info!

BB6 · 08-18-2019, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Pikey Motorsports

Join are WhatsApp group there are plenty of big power builds and tuners in there! Will probably get better advice there

Can you send me the info as well.

Pikey Motorsports · 08-18-2019, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BB6

Can you send me the info as well.

Message me ur number and I will add you

fabworxfab · 08-19-2019, 02:01 PM

tony what mods are currently done to the car, as cars are making great power with gtx3071 and 3076 upgraded turbos on pump gas ?

94jedi · 08-19-2019, 05:48 PM

Man I want to get into the big power game so bad but I don't want to sacrifice reliability...this is my daily and I'd be pissed if one of the rods tried to leave me lol. Gotta pay to play, I guess.

tonydat1 · 08-20-2019, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by fabworxfab

tony what mods are currently done to the car, as cars are making great power with gtx3071 and 3076 upgraded turbos on pump gas ?

What do you consider great power on pump? The most i've seen on pump alone is maybe high 600whp to low 700whp?

apexlocator · 08-22-2019, 12:01 AM

you cant go full e85 on stock injectors and pump

mchgcp · 08-22-2019, 03:43 AM

My M5 only equipped with an akrapovic line only rolls with E85. The reprogrammer had difficulties in the development. The performance gain is almost impossible because the HP pumps are reaching saturation. At the passage of the summer E85 (I do not know if it's like that at home but in France the ethanol rate varies between summer and winter) he had to resume because after a few accelerations the car was safe following a pressure drop of 2 pumps. I even replaced the low pressure pump for safety, but that did not change anything. Since his last intervention I have no more cuts. It's 20,000km that I ride only at E85.
So it is possible but no gain possible because we are at the limit of the capacity of high pressure pumps.

tonydat1 · 08-24-2019, 06:57 AM

I've heard the xdi35 can be used. I'll get more info once I talk to my shop about what we are going to do.

apexlocator · 08-24-2019, 02:13 PM

To clarify, on stock injectors/pumps, you can go full e85, but stay under ~600whp.

e92954 · 10-13-2019, 05:03 PM

whats the whatsapp info ?

08-14-2019, 04:13 PM	#1
tonydat1 Private First Class 16 Rep 104 Posts Drives: 2014 M5 Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Dallas, TX iTrader: (0)	Full E85 or Meth+Race Fuel So far everyone has done meth with race fuel with good results; however, only a few cars have done full E85 (one being fuel-it themselves) but no data has been released for that. I'm debating to see if I should try full E85 or continue on with meth/race fuel as everyone else has done with results. E85 is easily accessible here in Dallas where as I'd have to buy drums of race fuel to use. What are some pros/cons of going each route? Opinions needed! Mods include forged motor; PS2 turbo, exhaust, DP. Drivetrain items have been upgraded as well.
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08-19-2019, 02:01 PM	#6
fabworxfab New Member 0 Rep 6 Posts Drives: f10 m5 stage 4 860whp Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Nj iTrader: (0)	tony what mods are currently done to the car, as cars are making great power with gtx3071 and 3076 upgraded turbos on pump gas ?
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08-19-2019, 05:48 PM	#7
94jedi Major 829 Rep 1,254 Posts Drives: 2009 e92 M3 Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: United States iTrader: (0)	Man I want to get into the big power game so bad but I don't want to sacrifice reliability...this is my daily and I'd be pissed if one of the rods tried to leave me lol. Gotta pay to play, I guess. __________________ 2009 E92 M3 build thread: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1754875 Follow me on IG - www.instagram.com/the_driven_enthusiast
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08-22-2019, 12:01 AM	#9
apexlocator Captain 243 Rep 881 Posts Drives: 2014 M5 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: socal iTrader: (1)	you cant go full e85 on stock injectors and pump __________________ 2014 "AW/SO"me M5 Mission Performance/3.5 Bar RK Autowerks/ CSF ICs SSP Spec-R KW V3/ Corsa Axle back
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08-22-2019, 03:43 AM	#10
mchgcp New Member 245 Rep 28 Posts Drives: M5 F10 Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: FRANCE iTrader: (0)	My M5 only equipped with an akrapovic line only rolls with E85. The reprogrammer had difficulties in the development. The performance gain is almost impossible because the HP pumps are reaching saturation. At the passage of the summer E85 (I do not know if it's like that at home but in France the ethanol rate varies between summer and winter) he had to resume because after a few accelerations the car was safe following a pressure drop of 2 pumps. I even replaced the low pressure pump for safety, but that did not change anything. Since his last intervention I have no more cuts. It's 20,000km that I ride only at E85. So it is possible but no gain possible because we are at the limit of the capacity of high pressure pumps.
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08-24-2019, 06:57 AM	#11
tonydat1 Private First Class 16 Rep 104 Posts Drives: 2014 M5 Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Dallas, TX iTrader: (0)	I've heard the xdi35 can be used. I'll get more info once I talk to my shop about what we are going to do.
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08-24-2019, 02:13 PM	#12
apexlocator Captain 243 Rep 881 Posts Drives: 2014 M5 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: socal iTrader: (1)	To clarify, on stock injectors/pumps, you can go full e85, but stay under ~600whp.
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10-13-2019, 05:03 PM	#13
e92954 First Lieutenant 29 Rep 342 Posts Drives: 2008 335I Join Date: May 2013 Location: United States iTrader: (3)	whats the whatsapp info ?
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