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      04-25-2016, 03:57 PM   #1
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Paint Correction

Hey guys,

Need your input on paint correction. Is it worth it? My 2013 m5 is not in a bad shape, but I just feel like it might be a good time to get her cleaned up.

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1) is it worth it?
2) what's a good price?
3) any recommended shops/people in south Florida?

Thanks!

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Paint correction is always worth it, especially with dark cars in sunny regions like Florida!

What method do you use to wash your car? The most important bit of having corrected paint is for it to stay like that for as long as possible.

I'm not sure about prices/shops as I live in the UK.
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Paint correction is always worth it, especially with dark cars in sunny regions like Florida!

What method do you use to wash your car? The most important bit of having corrected paint is for it to stay like that for as long as possible.

I'm not sure about prices/shops as I live in the UK.
Is that because it's expensive or because after so many of them your paint will be gone? How many paint corrections can you do before the paint is gone? Or is it just the clear coat?
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      04-26-2016, 10:51 AM   #4
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2 bucket hand wash is how I wash my cars. Exactly to your point, the Florida weather is my main reason for this.
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      04-27-2016, 10:57 AM   #6
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Hey guys,

Need your input on paint correction. Is it worth it? My 2013 m5 is not in a bad shape, but I just feel like it might be a good time to get her cleaned up.

Questions:

1) is it worth it?
2) what's a good price?
3) any recommended shops/people in south Florida?

Thanks!
Yes, paint correction is worth it even on a brand new car as even factory paint comes with flaws. On a 3 yr old car it's def worth it, especially with darker colors.

Price depends on your geographical market and the expertise of the detailer. A solid detailer will charge 500-1000 depending on the level of correction to the clear coat. If you want a high end ceramic coating like CQuartz and/or Xpel (quality protective film) then you're going to be in the 1500-2500 range.

Sorry I am on west coast, so not much help there.
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      04-27-2016, 11:12 AM   #7
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Thank you, that's helpful.
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      04-27-2016, 11:14 AM   #8
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Paint correction is always worth it, especially with dark cars in sunny regions like Florida!

What method do you use to wash your car? The most important bit of having corrected paint is for it to stay like that for as long as possible.

I'm not sure about prices/shops as I live in the UK.
Is that because it's expensive or because after so many of them your paint will be gone? How many paint corrections can you do before the paint is gone? Or is it just the clear coat?
Paint correction is more expensive than a standard detail that doesn't involve any compounding/polishing.

Every time you compound/polish your paint (clear coat) you remove some clear coat. Detailers that know what they are doing use an electronic paint coating gage. It measures the thickness of up to 3 layers of substrate. You have to know what the clear coat thickness before you can start correction. The thickness is typically measured in mils. The detailer measures the whole car documenting the thickness of the clear coat on each body panel and then determines the amount of correction to be performed.

Most detail shops do not have this level of expertise. The paint gage alone is about $2400. If you want it don't right go to a pro but expect to pay top dollar.

So after you've spent good coin fixing your paint you have to maintain it just as carefully. I would suggest using a foam cannon and 2 bucket wash (only if really dirty) to maintain, along with quality cleaning products and the best microfiber you can find.

Good luck!!
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Wow... Didn't know that much attention goes to clear coat before they even start. Thank you!
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It's worth it - I've had a couple of cars done now and my m5 is booked in in June....full correction and two coats of zymol Royle...I use a leaf blower to dry my car off after a two bucket wash - gets the car bone dry with no risk of scratches....!
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And just in case you were in doubt....here's my old 911 after correction and Royle....
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Amazing!
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just food for thought, if your car isn't garage kept, driven daily, it's simply not worth it. a perfect paint correction just won't last, marring will come back after weekly washes, rain, the godam sprinkler hitting it, bird crap etc. i'm in south fla too. what color is your car?


imo, it's for a garage queen.
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Yeah my car is garaged at night - I think the rest depends on the wax you use - two coats of zymol Royal will last about 12 months - so once the car is corrected and protected - you simply give it a careful two bucket wash with grit guard leaf blower dry it and and then use zymol field glaze and your back to looking amazing again....take a dirty bucket and sponge to it and a wash leather and yeah you'll be back to swirls in no time! I guess it depends what you enjoy - I love driving the car but I love it looking its best - the m5 hasn't been detailed yet - it looks pretty good already to me!😀
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TrevorM3,
I have the SG. I love the color, but it definitely requires more maintenance. Probably as much as black paint.
The car is driven daily and gets everything that comes with it. But it also gets taken care of almost weekly, inside and out. Just love a clean car and feel like my paint looks a bit "tired" after almost 3 years of service.
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TrevorM3,
I have the SG. I love the color, but it definitely requires more maintenance. Probably as much as black paint.
The car is driven daily and gets everything that comes with it. But it also gets taken care of almost weekly, inside and out. Just love a clean car and feel like my paint looks a bit "tired" after almost 3 years of service.
Yeah, even if you wash it carefully, the smallest of little marrs will eventually add up over a period of 3 years. I usually start to see holograms after about 6 months which means its time for some light polishing
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At first it seems like a lot of $$ until you see how much work goes into a proper paint correction. I agree with the guys saying will it really matter if it is a daily driver because I just went through paying $$$$ for paint correction, expel and full ceramic coating. It was a big investment but I figured it should help the daily grind (rock, salt, scratches). It also makes the weekly wash a ton easier.

Here is my full process and results so you can see the work involved:

http://www.detailingbliss.com/topic/...ramic-coating/
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just food for thought, if your car isn't garage kept, driven daily, it's simply not worth it. a perfect paint correction just won't last, marring will come back after weekly washes, rain, the godam sprinkler hitting it, bird crap etc. i'm in south fla too. what color is your car?


imo, it's for a garage queen.
thats why you need a ceramic coating like CQuartz or Modesta. they basically add another level of clear coat while being so slick that nothing really sticks to the surface. i used CQuartz on my wife's MGM M4 a year ago, next month. there still isnt a swirl to be found and its just as glossy/water beads just as much as it did the first night i applied it. its much more effective...and long lasting....than traditional wax. if done by a certified dealer, they actually have 'warranties'.
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I did a paint correction on my wife's car today along with a detail and paid close to $500. Her paint is fairly good, clean, with minimal contamination and marring. I've seen it run close to $1k-3k depending on what is needed.

It does look amazing!!!
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You guys should watch this series by Obsessed Garage, who I believe is a member here (as he used to have an F80 M3): https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...U5rUd4aTPU6r9w
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I recently did a paint correction on my JetBlack paint as I had lots of scratches/swirls. Ordered all my stuff from Chemical Guy's. Its time consuming but the results are rewarding




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I recently did a paint correction on my JetBlack paint as I had lots of scratches/swirls. Ordered all my stuff from Chemical Guy's. Its time consuming but the results are rewarding
Nice work! I need to get one of those rolling stands.
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