OpenFlash Tablet F10 M5 Dyno Results (Stage 1)

OpenFlash · 07-22-2018, 03:45 AM

Anthony and I spent a good bit of time on the dyno yesterday finalizing the Stg 1 tunes for our F10 M5 (2 tuners are better than 1!). Interesting to note that the aftermarket exhaust didn't improve power on our 2015 M5 with Competition Package. But it did save ~50lbs and improved sound which is always a nice thing. Keep in mind that this car is still running OEM downpipes/catalysts. I like our cars (and air) clean so going cat-less was not an option. All testing done on a 3rd party dyno (Dynojet 224) running 91oct California fuel.

The fun really started when we remapped the ECU. We developed two version of OFT Stage 1: One with Full Torque and one with Flat Torque. The Full Torque version is just that, a tune that provides generous torque in the low end and midrange. We still limited peak torque to 585lb-ft which is a reflection on our restraint since the car is capable of producing much more at the expense of repeatability and excessive engine stress.

But it's the Flat Torque version of the tune which is novel. We purposely limited torque to stock-like torque levels. But keep it flat as possible throughout the rev range. This was still worth a nearly 100whp gain over stock. The nice thing about this Flat Torque tune is that it feels really rev happy, predictable, and easy to drive on the road. Almost as if it had a naturally aspirated engine. It begs to be revved out and feels repeatable pull after pull. Compared the more traditional Full Torque tune, this tune feels like you can beat on it all day and it will never miss a beat. Engine sounds and feels unstressed which always encourages hooliganism.

Tomorrow, best-selling Author, Racing Coach and the former Stig for Top Gear USA (Paul Gerrard) will be testing both Stage 1 tunes on the road and will be providing some valuable driver-focused feedback

Some random images of table info and definition file development.

wallyman424 · 07-22-2018, 08:30 AM

I like this concept. In your tuning software, can you adjust the throttle sensitivity and exhaust flaps? Thise are likely the only things I would mess with on my own.

What's the eta and price for this thing? I'm pretty much on board.

somer · 07-22-2018, 04:26 PM

Flat torque map looks perfect.

OpenFlash · 07-24-2018, 03:32 AM

The former Top Gear Stig lived up up to his name and gave the car a good thrashing up a closed mountain road. He tried both our Stage 1 OTS tune files and thoroughly enjoyed the car. His review to come soon.....

OneExtra · 07-24-2018, 09:49 AM

I really like the sound of your stage 1 map with standard torque and +100bhp

I have a 2016 Comp Pack so it's sounds perfect

Do you ship the Open Flash tablet and cables to the UK

kong24680 · 07-24-2018, 05:49 PM

Do you have an OTS setting/option for exhaust burbles?

OpenFlash · 07-24-2018, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneExtra

I really like the sound of your stage 1 map with standard torque and +100bhp

I have a 2016 Comp Pack so it's sounds perfect

Do you ship the Open Flash tablet and cables to the UK

Yes of course. We ship world-wide

OpenFlash · 07-24-2018, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kong24680

Do you have an OTS setting/option for exhaust burbles?

Yes indeed. Burbles was very easy to implement and can be applied as a simple one-click patch through the user software.

kong24680 · 07-24-2018, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OpenFlash

Quote:

Originally Posted by kong24680

Do you have an OTS setting/option for exhaust burbles?

Yes indeed. Burbles was very easy to implement and can be applied as a simple one-click patch through the user software.

Wow, I am very interested. Dumpspec

wallyman424 · 07-24-2018, 06:29 PM

In the tuning software are there maps that adjust the throttle pedal sensitivity and the exhaust flaps?

OpenFlash · 07-24-2018, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wallyman424

In the tuning software are there maps that adjust the throttle pedal sensitivity and the exhaust flaps?

Yes, those adjustments will be implemented in the user tuning interface.

wallyman424 · 07-24-2018, 08:37 PM

Ok I'm in. Awaiting release date.

OpenFlash · 07-24-2018, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by wallyman424

Ok I'm in. Awaiting release date.

All F series OFTs will be shipping by the end of this month. Available for pre-order (at intro price) on the website

OneExtra · 07-25-2018, 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OpenFlash

Yes of course. We ship world-wide

Can I have a price please,

Thanks

OpenFlash · 07-25-2018, 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneExtra

Can I have a price please,

Thanks

Just follow this link

OneExtra · 07-25-2018, 02:52 AM

Will the OpenFlash for the M5 include both the Flat Torque Map as well as the Full Torque Map?

OpenFlash · 07-25-2018, 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneExtra

Will the OpenFlash for the M5 include both the Flat Torque Map as well as the Full Torque Map?

Yes indeed. Both Stg1 tune files (full torque and flat torque) will be available to OFT users free of charge. Same goes for other tune files/updates we release in the future.

ByronUT_M6 · 07-25-2018, 09:33 AM

Will you be able to live monitor boost and afr with the tablet? Also will a stg 2 catless downpipes map be available in the near future?

Thanks

OpenFlash · 07-25-2018, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ByronUT_M6

Will you be able to live monitor boost and afr with the tablet? Also will a stg 2 catless downpipes map be available in the near future?

Thanks

Yes you can live monitor many engine parameters (including boost and AFR) on the OFT screen. You can configure custome digital gauges on the display. Data can be displayed numerically or graphically. A YouTube search for “OpenFlash Tablet Data Display” will give you dozens of videos to watch. Keep in mind that the YouTube videos show the OFT (version 1). We have recently released OFT (version 2) which is slimmer, has a larger higher res screen and updated components. Pls let me know if you need any more info 👍

ByronUT_M6 · 07-25-2018, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OpenFlash

Quote:

Originally Posted by ByronUT_M6

Will you be able to live monitor boost and afr with the tablet? Also will a stg 2 catless downpipes map be available in the near future?

Thanks

Yes you can live monitor many engine parameters (including boost and AFR) on the OFT screen. You can configure custome digital gauges on the display. Data can be displayed numerically or graphically. A YouTube search for “OpenFlash Tablet Data Display” will give you dozens of videos to watch. Keep in mind that the YouTube videos show the OFT (version 1). We have recently released OFT (version 2) which is slimmer, has a larger higher res screen and updated components. Pls let me know if you need any more info

That's awesome! I'm really liking this setup, I assume you guys will also have an ots "stg 2" catless downpipes map?

OpenFlash · 07-25-2018, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ByronUT_M6

That's awesome! I'm really liking this setup, I assume you guys will also have an ots "stg 2" catless downpipes map?

Yes and for upgraded turbos as well.

wtfmateim65 · 07-25-2018, 01:06 PM

I'm assuming we can OBD unlock and relock the DME with this as well? And speed limiter removal?

Also would I be able to mix in 2-3 gallons of E85 on and off when available with the stage 1 map?
Ideally I'd like to just run one map with the ability to throw in a little E85 when I have it if the tables have enough room to adapt similar to the bm3 tunes.

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