VRSF DP Install (pic heavy)

[Craze]

My ess pipes were the same

Not sure how they can be such poor position

[Tiago@VRSF]

We've resolved a few different issues with this product since it's inception but there's simply nothing we can do in regards to the precision necessary for the o2 sensors being off by a couple millimeters.

The easiest solution is to simply notch the heat shield which takes less than a few minutes with the proper tools. We have hundreds of successful installs out in the wild including on our own shop M6 GC and we guarantee fitment as long as the downpipe is installed by a competent professional.

These are far from a standard DIY in comparison to the N54, N55 and S55 options we offer which are the most popular options for each respective platform.

[Stück]

The drivers side O2 is off by more than a few millimeters, and a competent fabricator/jig maker could easily get it correct. Having to modify the car because the product doesn't fit like it should meets YOU HAVE NOT MADE THEM RIGHT.

You can't guarantee fitment as they all fit like the above pictures, poorly.

Still waiting for my refund and or replacement parts.

[Tiago@VRSF]

Originally Posted by Stück

The drivers side O2 is off by more than a few millimeters, and a competent fabricator/jig maker could easily get it correct. Having to modify the car because the product doesn't fit like it should meets YOU HAVE NOT MADE THEM RIGHT.

You can't guarantee fitment as they all fit like the above pictures, poorly.

Still waiting for my refund and or replacement parts.

We don't have an order from you. PM your order number & I'll be more than happy to assist

[Stück]

We've been through this many times over. I've already given you the order number, dates, shipping, phone number, taken photos at your request, taken photos with measurements requiring disassembly at your request, given you instructions on how to fix the piss poor quality and given you hell for being a general lousy person for all of it.

[Calle799]

Originally Posted by bloxsom

The install was done on a 2013 F10 M5 with a JB4, BCM, Water Meth, and BMS intake and charge pipe kit.

1. Order DP's From vr-speed.com (VRSF)
2. Wait for FedEx (about 5 business days from shipping date, East to West coast)

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INSTALL
3. Make sure your engine is cool.
4. Remove the black engine cover under the hood (its mounted on rubber grommets so just work it up by hand)

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5. DISCONNECT YOUR BATTERY ground cable in the trunk. You will be shortly removing two very important grounding wires and if you try to start your car without them connected crazy things happen... Eg: your ECU's will drain your entire meth tank into your charge pipes while cranking the engine over... Ask me how I know...
6a. Gently remove the two ECU's by hand from the metal bracket as you will need to remove that piece next. (they are also mounted on 4 rubber grommets)

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6b. Remove the two grounding straps with a 10mm wrench. (each one is located just next to the ECU's)
6c. Remove the 1 Torx holding the coolant reservoir.
6d. With the ECU's pulled back you will See 4 T30 torx holding the bracket to the Engine. Remove the 4 bolts.
6e. Remove bracket

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7a. Unplug the 4 o2 sensors from their plug in connections.
7b. Loosen DO NOT remove the 6 T30 torx from the heat shield. (saves you time later)

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7c. Remove the top two o2 sensors you will need a Deep o2 socket (you can rent one with a deposit from AutoZone Part Number: 27110)
7d. Remove the two Plastic PCV hoses (easily pull back while working each clip loose

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7e. Remove the smaller heat shield just below the Plastic PCV hoses, two T30 torx each side.

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7f. Remove heat shields (all 3)
8. Remove the back o2s with a 22mm wrench.
9a. Remove the 6mm Allen's on each DP and the bracket (total 6 bolts)

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9b. Remove the two 13mm V-band bolts and jar the V-band loose. (a pry bar and light tap from a hammer helps. Slide V-band back over turbo housing)

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9c. Back by the Firewall you will see a total of 4 13mm bolts. Two on each DP bracket. Remove the 13mm nuts.

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UNDER CAR.
10. Remove the 10 thousand 8mm bolts that hold the underbelly tray on.
11. Remove the 6 16mm bolts holding the front sub-frame reinforcement plate up.

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12a. Remove the 2 11mm nuts on each DP.

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12b. Remove the 8 13mm bolts holding the exhaust bracket and chassis enforcement plate (just to get the midsection to hang a little lower for clearance)

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13. Remove Driver DP first. It is a tight fit but it does come out with a little twist.

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14. Install your VRSF DP's from the top. You will probably have to adjust the the DP brackets that are mounted to the cylinder head with a short 6mm Allen.

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15. Make sure that you get the gaskets on the lower part of the DP to slide over the actual DP and that they are NOT sitting in the midsection of the exhaust. (see pic12a, here you can see 1 of the 2 gaskets is still in the stock side of the exhaust system. The two pipes in this condition will not mate up)
16. Get your V-band clamps back on but leave them slightly loose so you can make any small adjustments to get the lower part of the exhaust system aligned.
17. Going back together is just in reverse order!

Notes:

1. If you do start the car before you re-install everything to check for leaks. PLEASE install the two ground wires to the cylinder head next to the ECUs. Reason stated above.
2. Fit and finish? Great, and I'm not supersized, I have installed several DP's from VRSF (n54/55) and I like them because they always fit and the price is right.
3. Power? I have no clue. Running map1 on the JB4 with the DP's installed "feels" faster but it might just be the sound. Ill be back at the dyno soon!.
4. Sound.. finally I have sound. This is the best part of it all coming from a E60 M5. Its not the same but I love it. $600 in parts and if you don't do it yourself I would guess a shop would charge between 3-5 hours?
5.Sound clip coming soon..

Hi, great thread! It helped me a lot when installing my downpipes.

Just have a question, picture 12a where the gasket sits. Where does the "dounat ring" comes? I may have do it faulty becouse im getting vibrations that causes the arm on the wastegate rattle a lot.

I put the ring on the downpipe and then the flat gasket. But i supose that is wrong? I dont see the ring on your picture. Wich side is going up/down?

Hope you can help me out.

Best regards,
Calle

[Fast.F10]

Originally Posted by Stück

We've been through this many times over. I've already given you the order number, dates, shipping, phone number, taken photos at your request, taken photos with measurements requiring disassembly at your request, given you instructions on how to fix the piss poor quality and given you hell for being a general lousy person for all of it.

Did they ever get you squared away? Was looking at going the VRSF route...but now second guessing it based on quality issue. And yes, anyone would agree, if there is a problem...Rev2...or rev3...or however many rev's it takes to make proper.


bloxsom , great write up!

[rickyf10]

Any solutions on wastegate rattle??

[Fast.F10]

Originally Posted by rickyf10

Any solutions on wastegate rattle??

OEM catted DP

[Chaman]

Originally Posted by rickyf10

Any solutions on wastegate rattle??

Change to turbos with spring waste gates

[F10CPROG]

Originally Posted by theracerboss

Thanks so much for this write up

It’s by far extremely accurately detailed.

For anyone not having a lift, it can get really hard to do. I got a shop to do it under my supervision and it took 4 hrs

Love the way the car sounds with competition package and catless downpipes.

Any vids or soundclips?

[F10CPROG]

Just looking at photos how does the system clamp up to the downpipes? I can't get my head around it... Its not a sleeve clamp it looks like a flange joint but the downpipes dont have a flange on them!?

[theracerboss]

Originally Posted by F10CPROG

Any vids or soundclips?

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Any vids or soundclips?[/QUOTE]

Sorry
Went from that setup to swapping out the completion cans to a corsa section 3

Then went into my current setup with
1. VSRF Dp
2. OBX section 1 and 2
3. Corsa section 3

This is something I love

The setup is not obnoxious, it's got a deep tone unlike the rasp that started with just doing the downpipes.
Most importantly, it toned down the loudness of the setup a little but by far the greatest thing is it comes with ZERO drone.

I am not a rasp guy, I had a M5 V10 with catless headers and it screamed with the rasp. It was okay for when I was younger, now I prefer a deep tone setup that has some melody to it than just screaming all over the streets

[94jedi]

Originally Posted by theracerboss

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I am not a rasp guy, I had a M5 V10 with catless headers and it screamed with the rasp. It was okay for when I was younger, now I prefer a deep tone setup that has some melody to it than just screaming all over the streets

ah come on, you know blasting up and down M street when there was an opening in traffic was awesome haha.

[theracerboss]

Originally Posted by 94jedi

ah come on, you know blasting up and down M street when there was an opening in traffic was awesome haha.

Now having to roll back onto Catted downpipes
Emissions 3 months past due ....


Unless someone can help providing a solution please

[colemancf]

Will be installing mines next weekend. Great write up

[Boosted M5]

Originally Posted by rickyf10

Any solutions on wastegate rattle??

I have gutted oem cats and I don't have any waste gate rattle.