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      09-07-2012, 10:27 AM   #1
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Order the Snap i adapter for my 4S , one question is that when i snap the phone in the snap in adapter will i be able to see the songs list on my idrive or should connect it with the Y cable.

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I have the "BMW Apple iPhone Media Snap In Adapter". All songs and playlists are available on the idrive.
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I have the "BMW Apple iPhone Media Snap In Adapter". All songs and playlists are available on the idrive.
do have the part number?
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^ Correct. The Media snap-in handles audio and video directly. And in fact not only is there no way to connect a Y-cable while the phone is in the cradle, the Y-cable isn't even used anymore. Now you just connect via the normal white Apple USB cable to get (digital) audio, control, and even album art.

The ONLY extra benefits of the Media cradle over USB are PlugIn (native iPod interface on the iDrive display) and playback of videos stored on your phone -- the latter only works while stopped. Some people have claimed improved reception, but that's dicey on an iPhone because it doesn't have an actual external antenna connector like a BB, so any benefits would be inductive through the baseplate. And of course using the cradle frees up your USB port for something else to connect and charge too.
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So what do you do when you upgrade to the iPhone 5 (or what ever it will be called). do you just by a new dock for the phone?
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So what do you do when you upgrade to the iPhone 5 (or what ever it will be called). do you just by a new dock for the phone?
Yep, which is why these cradles are so dumb IMHO. They're crazy expensive, and if you're lucky they MIGHT work with two successive phone generations if Apple doesn't change the physical shape, like the 3G/3GS and 4/4S pairs. But there's no guarantee of that, and given how long it takes BMW to release a cradle for a given phone, you may already be thinking about your next phone by the time it's available. The iPhone 4 cradle came out about 8 months after the 4, only to be immediately recalled and then re-released about 3 months later. If Apple hadn't slipped on the 4S launch by several months, BMW would have been releasing a cradle for one phone almost exactly when Apple replaced it with their next one.

And all of this just to get PlugIn, video playback (only while parked, mind you), and the ability to use your USB jack for some other device?

I suppose you MIGHT be able to use the 4S cradle with a 5 with a cable like this: http://www.amazon.com/Ziotek-ZT13115...xp_grid_pt_0_0. That would run the phone through the cradle's electronics to get PlugIn and video without requiring the phone to physically fit into the cradle, but that assumes the electronics in the 4S cradle will work with the 5.

EDIT: Nope, the above solution won't work for the iPhone 5, nor will Apple's extension cord-style Lightning adapter, which is confirmed not to support video.
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^ Correct. The Media snap-in handles audio and video directly. And in fact not only is there no way to connect a Y-cable while the phone is in the cradle, the Y-cable isn't even used anymore. Now you just connect via the normal white Apple USB cable to get (digital) audio, control, and even album art.

The ONLY extra benefits of the Media cradle over USB are PlugIn (native iPod interface on the iDrive display) and playback of videos stored on your phone -- the latter only works while stopped. Some people have claimed improved reception, but that's dicey on an iPhone because it doesn't have an actual external antenna connector like a BB, so any benefits would be inductive through the baseplate. And of course using the cradle frees up your USB port for something else to connect and charge too.

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How do i play video on i drive?
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^ While the phone is in the cradle, go to Multimedia > External Devices and select your phone. Then on the button stack on the left edge where you'd select your music library, skip tracks, etc, you'll see a Videos button. But you have to be using the Media cradle (not Music) and it only works for videos actually stored in your Videos library on the phone, i.e. you can't use it with the YouTube app or any third-party video apps on the phone.

You might also need to have the handbrake on and be in Park (assuming you have DCT).
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Yep, which is why these cradles are so dumb IMHO. They're crazy expensive, and if you're lucky they MIGHT work with two successive phone generations if Apple doesn't change the physical shape, like the 3G/3GS and 4/4S pairs. But there's no guarantee of that, and given how long it takes BMW to release a cradle for a given phone, you may already be thinking about your next phone by the time it's available. The iPhone 4 cradle came out about 8 months after the 4, only to be immediately recalled and then re-released about 3 months later. If Apple hadn't slipped on the 4S launch by several months, BMW would have been releasing a cradle for one phone almost exactly when Apple replaced it with their next one.

And all of this just to get PlugIn, video playback (only while parked, mind you), and the ability to use your USB jack for some other device?
Another issue that I have heard with the cradle is that the iPhone has a tendancy to overheat in the cradle inside the closed armrest since there is little ability for heat created by the phone to dissipate.
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Hi Guys

Order the Snap i adapter for my 4S , one question is that when i snap the phone in the snap in adapter will i be able to see the songs list on my idrive or should connect it with the Y cable.

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Not to mention the fact that the iPhone 5 will have a different plug. So all of our chargers etc will be useless to it. Bastards!!
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do have the part number?
I bought this part in the BMW store at the WELT. They have them behind the counter.
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Guys, if anyone is ordering or expecting the iPhone 5 i would wait on getting any parts for this connection. Apple is 99% expected to change the connector at the bottom of the phone which means all new accessories for everyone.. BMW will most likely need to change that piece to allow for the new smaller connector, there will be an adapter from apple to convert new to old but that will be clunky and messy. iPhone 5 due out either Sept 12th or 21st... stay tuned..
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Not to mention the fact that the iPhone 5 will have a different plug. So all of our chargers etc will be useless to it. Bastards!!
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Guys, if anyone is ordering or expecting the iPhone 5 i would wait on getting any parts for this connection. Apple is 99% expected to change the connector at the bottom of the phone which means all new accessories for everyone.. BMW will most likely need to change that piece to allow for the new smaller connector, there will be an adapter from apple to convert new to old but that will be clunky and messy. iPhone 5 due out either Sept 12th or 21st... stay tuned..
The adapter wouldn't necessarily be large. If you take a look at the MagSafe 2 to MagSafe 1 adapter to allow the chargers that come with their new laptops to work on their older laptops, it's barely any wider than the connector itself and incredibly thin; I suspect the same will be true here, so having a standard white Apple cable in the car plus a tiny adapter will allow you to charge both iPhone 5s and every other iDevice out there. The cradle would be another story entirely, of course, but you could use the cable I linked above plus the adapter if you really wanted to, though that whole solution would definitely be somewhat bulky -- and again, that assumes that the 4S cradle electronics will work with the 5 at all.

EDIT: Apple's Lightning adapters do not support video, so the above solution I proposed will not work to get the iPhone 5 transmitting video through the 4/4S Media cradle.
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I have the iPhone 4S adapter in my car. I got it for the phone clarity (direct link) vs Bluetooth and the ability to use the outside antenna. I've tested it with a variety of calls and it does "seem" clearer.

Also, re the heat, the adapter has a small built in fan in the cradle. I haven't experienced any overheating or heat buildup.
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I have the iPhone 4S adapter in my car. I got it for the phone clarity (direct link) vs Bluetooth and the ability to use the outside antenna. I've tested it with a variety of calls and it does "seem" clearer.

Also, re the heat, the adapter has a small built in fan in the cradle. I haven't experienced any overheating or heat buildup.
The phone uses Bluetooth for calls even while it's in the cradle, so any increased phone clarity you're hearing is either due to reception improvements from induction through the baseplate from the external antenna, or it's entirely in your head. Now, MUSIC from the phone benefits tremendously from a wired connection compared to Bluetooth. Bluetooth definitely doesn't sound bad, but on higher-bitrate audio it's definitely not as good as being directly connected.

I've had my phone power off and show a temperature warning on the display even while connected to the fan-equipped cradle. Granted, it was 105 F outside and I had just gotten into my black interior car that had been sitting outside and it was before I had tint, plus I was using it to stream Pandora at the time which seems to warm up the phone in general, but it can happen.
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I bought and just returned the insert. Found out that the insert will not work with an iphone case....thus everytime I wanted to use it I had to take the case off.
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How do i play video on i drive?
Guys please help me for my iphone to play video on my i drive.

some explain to me but cannot get it work.
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Guys please help me for my iphone to play video on my i drive.

some explain to me but cannot get it work.
When you originally asked this question:

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Thks

How do i play video on i drive?
...I posted a response DIRECTLY under it, literally 2 minutes later:

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^ While the phone is in the cradle, go to Multimedia > External Devices and select your phone. Then on the button stack on the left edge where you'd select your music library, skip tracks, etc, you'll see a Videos button. But you have to be using the Media cradle (not Music) and it only works for videos actually stored in your Videos library on the phone, i.e. you can't use it with the YouTube app or any third-party video apps on the phone.

You might also need to have the handbrake on and be in Park (assuming you have DCT).
Did you not see that? If not, or if you need more basic instructions, here goes:

1. Get an iPhone 4 or 4S running iOS 5 or later, and a car with the BMW Apps option.

2. Add some videos to the iPhone via iTunes. Make sure they appear in your phone's Videos app. You can't access videos in third-party apps like YouTube, VLC, etc.

3. Connect the iPhone to your car via the 4/4S MEDIA cradle. The regular Music cradle will not work, nor will the USB cable.

4. Make sure you're stopped with the handbrake on. With DCT you may also need to be in Park, not sure.

5. Go to CD/Multimedia > External devices > Your phone.

6. Over on the left where you see a vertical stack of buttons for track skip, browsing your library, etc, you should see a button that says Videos. Select it.

7. Select a video. Once it starts playing, after a few seconds of no further input, the rest of the iDrive display will fade away to allow fullscreen viewing.

8. Enjoy watching videos for as long as you can stand just sitting in a parked M5 watching videos rather than actually driving or getting out of your car to carry on with your life....
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