POLL - ALL F10 M5 Owners Drivetrain Malfunction

[finlandm5f10]

I have 2013 and 106000km driven. Never drive train malfunction. And it is not stock. 700hp and 900nm

[JoeKhoda]

Originally Posted by finlandm5f10

I have 2013 and 106000km driven. Never drive train malfunction. And it is not stock. 700hp and 900nm

What mods/brands? Which tune are you running? We need details!

[DjNiki4F10M5]

well i can be added to this i got the error message this morning.
I just got my car back from BMW they did:

-Oil Change (currently car has 53k miles)
-Coding on the cameras i was getting a camera malfunction but they worked fine.
-Full Detail (inside outside and engine bay)
-New summer tires installed.

The only thing i could think of is the the detail guy could have gotten some sensor wet and cause this issue?

When i drove it home last night from work it was fine, this morning on my way from work after 7 min of running i got the error message. I was merging into a high way and i was in Sport plus mode on auto shifting and Sport on the steering wheel.

Called my guy at bmw and he is getting more info from the techs.

After 5 min of driving at only 65 mph because it wont go pass that the error code on the display went away but the CEL is now still on. The car can now go over 65 and seems to be pulling hard but i feel like it has a boost leak or clutch slipping. . . ughhhh

[carlitosgomesm5]

Originally Posted by DjNiki4F10M5

well i can be added to this i got the error message this morning.
I just got my car back from BMW they did:

-Oil Change (currently car has 53k miles)
-Coding on the cameras i was getting a camera malfunction but they worked fine.
-Full Detail (inside outside and engine bay)
-New summer tires installed.

The only thing i could think of is the the detail guy could have gotten some sensor wet and cause this issue?

When i drove it home last night from work it was fine, this morning on my way from work after 7 min of running i got the error message. I was merging into a high way and i was in Sport plus mode on auto shifting and Sport on the steering wheel.

Called my guy at bmw and he is getting more info from the techs.

After 5 min of driving at only 65 mph because it wont go pass that the error code on the display went away but the CEL is now still on. The car can now go over 65 and seems to be pulling hard but i feel like it has a boost leak or clutch slipping. . . ughhhh

Do you know when your spark plugs were last changed? I did go stage1 and upon going past 6000rpm in 4th gear my car got drivetrain malfunction. went back to stock and is fine but i do need to change my spark plugs. My point here is that like you i got the message and felt the car sluggish and lack of power, slipping that sort of thing. Ask your BMW rep if he knows when the sparks were last changed.

[DjNiki4F10M5]

less than 10k miles ago

[BeachM5nster]

Originally Posted by BMWonlyZone

2014 Model, no comp pack, stock, 9K miles, never seen the warning.

jesus, drive your car some lol

[carlitosgomesm5]

Originally Posted by DjNiki4F10M5

less than 10k miles ago

hey neighbor we both in NJ. If you were just at BMW you could call your rep and ask what it might be. Do you have OBD cable and the software to read the codes? or have you used the hidden menu to see if any codes come up? You could try and get OBD cable and ISTA to read the codes and see if there is something that pops out. You can then use http://bmwfault.codes/ and see if you can figure out what each means. Hope some of this helps you.

[DjNiki4F10M5]

Hey bud. .. . i took it right back to BMW the SA is actually a good friend of mine so will see what he says. . . i still think the detail guys might've damaged some sensor or something stupid. . . will report back once i hear from them. . . =/

p/s i do have OBII cable to Ethernet cable is what i used to do some coding to the car.

[carlitosgomesm5]

Originally Posted by DjNiki4F10M5

Hey bud. .. . i took it right back to BMW the SA is actually a good friend of mine so will see what he says. . . i still think the detail guys might've damaged some sensor or something stupid. . . will report back once i hear from them. . . =/

p/s i do have OBII cable to Ethernet cable is what i used to do some coding to the car.

yeh same here. That is why i mentioned perhaps using ISTA to check for error codes. Its good that you have a friend at BMW makes things slightly easier.
You doing any meetups in NJ soon?

[DjNiki4F10M5]

Lets hope i get it back soon. There is a meet at GSP mall on sunday

[carlitosgomesm5]

Originally Posted by DjNiki4F10M5

Lets hope i get it back soon. There is a meet at GSP mall on sunday

yes im 5 mins away, are you going? thinking of taking my kiddo as he loves cars plus its for charity.

[DjNiki4F10M5]

i would love to but only if i have my M5 lol

[DjNiki4F10M5]

so it is the coil's on cyl 2 and 6 that caused this issue, thats all i have so far =/

[DjNiki4F10M5]

I am hoping BMW is taking care of it, i do have ext. warranty on it.

[BeachM5nster]

Originally Posted by DjNiki4F10M5

well i can be added to this i got the error message this morning.
I just got my car back from BMW they did:
-Oil Change (currently car has 53k miles)
-Coding on the cameras i was getting a camera malfunction but they worked fine.
-Full Detail (inside outside and engine bay)
-New summer tires installed.

The only thing i could think of is the the detail guy could have gotten some sensor wet and cause this issue?

that REALLY sucks and im not one to pour salt in wounds but i preach this everywhere i go..

-Don't let anyone clean anything you own unless you give absolutely zero shits about it. Lots of reasons here:

1)95% of non-major damage and wear comes from cleaning(even when you, the owner, does it carefully and meticulously, u need lots of exp like me and spend money {always using brand new cloths, sponges, etc, and knowing what products to never use from trial and error thankfully learned on lesser vehicles than the M5}) the other 5% comes from the road.. and stuff like jackasses that cut their grass into the road.

2) people you pay to clean your stuff dont give a shit about your stuff and want to do just enough with minimal effort to make it look clean enough for you to pay them and they can be gone.

3) people that clean your really nice stuff usually develop a spiteful bone and there are many things they can do and it will never be found until way later and you'll never know how or why it happened much less who did it or when

4) asking someone to detail your ENGINE BAY?! WTF HELL NO.. thats asking for a problem
i guarantee they just blasted your shit with the water hose
bc.. its quicker

to clean an engine bay:

i use charmin natural buttwipes (no perfumes, etc) for the engine bay. delicately wipe only surface areas.
then come back with a spray bottle that sprays only a thin mist and microfiber and careful to not let it snag on any delicate and expensive component.
slow and careful and DAMP DRY is the name of the game with engine bay cleaning.

and never finish it off with armor all or anything bc its just glue for dirt and preserves nothing.

if you think you can find a detail guy that is that good or careful, GOOD LUCK.. i know they are out there but not in my state.
those ppl only exist in Jay Leno's garage.

Case in point.. theres a guy in my area friend of friends that details cars, and posts on instagram..

the things i see him do to cars.. omg.. i would never let him touch anything of mine

he posts vids of him doing it too.. we are talking spraying soap and water all over electric components then brushing it all around with a stiff bristle brush some ppl actually called him out on that

but washes in full sun and
this dumbass put armor all on the leather seats in a jaguar!! LOL and posted it like, look how shiny i made this antique jag's seats hahaha. idiot

thats what u get.. same with housekeepers too

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

I think I'm going to purchase a Bosch coil and keep as a spare just in case one of them starts playing up.A good spare to keep methinks.

Just received it, man that's some coil looks like a pistol barrel and heavier than I imagined.
Will be keeping in the car at all times should the need arise,this is a worthwhile part to keep inside should one start playing up and the BMW recovery guy discovers that it is needed.

[nencmeister]

Just got one today on the drive to work

Codes show a misfire on cylinder 1, hopefully just plugs

[SMGLee]

I just bought an used 2015 M5 CP with 45k miles on it, it had an impeccable service record from Pacific BMW and zero accidents. the car had zero mods and after about three weeks of owning it, it has had four or five drivetrain malfunction warnings with last two of the incidents the car refused to restart. I had to do a complete shut down of the engine and restarting it almost like restarting your windows computer.

the car is currently sitting at Monrovia BMW getting checked out under warranty that will expire by June of this year.

Edit to add: Just got a call from the dealer, its a low pressure fuel pump that went out. it will take a few days to order it and installed.

[Pdubz_M5]

I unfortunately just got this same message under hard acceleration and went into limp mode. My car is completely stock. 2015 117000km. This is my 3rd week of ownership and I will change the plugs next week to see if that helps. I replicated the same symptoms again in sport+ in all settings with hard acceleration about an hour later. Hopefully there is no underlying issues.

[rickyf10]

Okay, sadly got this warning today. 80k km, bm3 stage 1 without any other modifications.
I was in auto and 2nd drivelogic. When I start from the rest and making a left turn, a sudden kick comes (probably 2nd gear to 3rd gear) and DT malfunction pops up. Then the car’s in limp mode.
I’ve check the error code that was about “rail sensor pressure too low before start”. I cleared the error code and restart, everything works fine
Any idea?

[Rennyk.]

Originally Posted by rickyf10

Okay, sadly got this warning today. 80k km, bm3 stage 1 without any other modifications.
I was in auto and 2nd drivelogic. When I start from the rest and making a left turn, a sudden kick comes (probably 2nd gear to 3rd gear) and DT malfunction pops up. Then the car’s in limp mode.
I’ve check the error code that was about “rail sensor pressure too low before start”. I cleared the error code and restart, everything works fine
Any idea?

I had a low fuel rail pressure on my 335i previously and it was injector related

[carlitosgomesm5]

Just to update some of you, for sure my issue were the plugs. Changed them to NGKs and gapped them to 0.018" all good now. I am again on BM3 Stage 1 Beta and have done some hard pulls and no issues.