m5 f10 vs gtr

[wheelpro]

Gtr stock ,
M5 map 8

[IANNUZZI]

[wheelpro]

[QUOTE=IANNUZZI;21679104]

[/QUOif both car stock and start rolling like from 60 km
Bmw will win
if start from 0 grr will win cause 4wd vs rwd

[IANNUZZI]

[QUOTE=wheelpro;21708883]

Originally Posted by IANNUZZI

[/QUOif both car stock and start rolling like from 60 km
Bmw will win
if start from 0 grr will win cause 4wd vs rwd

The point of the post was to show that the GTR is a far better performance automobile....

BMW limited M5 top speed to ~155mph vs 195mph for the GTR, go long enough and the GTR will win.

I love the way you guys think, ya if this and this and this and this then the M5 win. The world will not wait for you, a well driven awd car with less power will beat an M5 from light to light and in other scenarios as well. Forget the GTR, the M5 is too far handicapped to beat a GTR....

[wheelpro]

[QUOTE=IANNUZZI;21709584]

Originally Posted by wheelpro

The point of the post was to show that the GTR is a far better performance automobile....

BMW limited M5 top speed to ~155mph vs 195mph for the GTR, go long enough and the GTR will win.

I love the way you guys think, ya if this and this and this and this then the M5 win. The world will not wait for you, a well driven awd car with less power will beat an M5 from light to light and in other scenarios as well. Forget the GTR, the M5 is too far handicapped to beat a GTR....

who will win depend on who tuned will

[wanesso]

[QUOTE=IANNUZZI;21709584]

Originally Posted by wheelpro

The point of the post was to show that the GTR is a far better performance automobile....

BMW limited M5 top speed to ~155mph vs 195mph for the GTR, go long enough and the GTR will win.

I love the way you guys think, ya if this and this and this and this then the M5 win. The world will not wait for you, a well driven awd car with less power will beat an M5 from light to light and in other scenarios as well. Forget the GTR, the M5 is too far handicapped to beat a GTR....

Both cars are iconic in their own right and are a bit apple to orange comparison. I'm loving the new GTR more every time I drive it--and I could drive it all winter long. I'm waiting for the GTR vs M5 AWD comparison--that will be fun. No reason you can't love them both.

[wanesso]

[QUOTE=IANNUZZI;21709584]

Originally Posted by wheelpro

The point of the post was to show that the GTR is a far better performance automobile....

BMW limited M5 top speed to ~155mph vs 195mph for the GTR, go long enough and the GTR will win.

I love the way you guys think, ya if this and this and this and this then the M5 win. The world will not wait for you, a well driven awd car with less power will beat an M5 from light to light and in other scenarios as well. Forget the GTR, the M5 is too far handicapped to beat a GTR....

Plus....we're on bimmerpost. Post this on GTR life forum and you will make lots of friends fast!

[wheelpro]

[QUOTE=wanesso;21718466]

Originally Posted by IANNUZZI

Plus....we're on bimmerpost. Post this on GTR life forum and you will make lots of friends fast!

[IANNUZZI]

[QUOTE=wanesso;21718466]

Originally Posted by IANNUZZI

Plus....we're on bimmerpost. Post this on GTR life forum and you will make lots of friends fast!

No $hit Sherlock.

If you wanna play you gotta pay. I tell it like it is, An M5 is not in the same league as a gtr in terms of overall peformance. < Endofstory >

[wanesso]

[QUOTE=IANNUZZI;21742647]

Originally Posted by wanesso

No $hit Sherlock.

If you wanna play you gotta pay. I tell it like it is, An M5 is not in the same league as a gtr in terms of overall peformance. < Endofstory >

It's never the end of story Watson....

[Leec33]

[QUOTE=IANNUZZI;21742647]

Originally Posted by wanesso

No $hit Sherlock.

If you wanna play you gotta pay. I tell it like it is, An M5 is not in the same league as a gtr in terms of overall peformance. < Endofstory >

Clearly you've never seen a modded M5/M6 vs a GTR lol

[IANNUZZI]

[QUOTE=Leec33;21757184]

Originally Posted by IANNUZZI

Clearly you've never seen a modded M5/M6 vs a GTR lol

LOL

There are modded GTRs running 7s in the 1/4, one just went into the 6s. How quick does an M5 run in the 1/4? Dont even go there. The GTR is a purpose built performance car, the M5 is an upgraded 5-series with a chassis that can't keep up with the motor...

LOL

[wheelpro]

[QUOTE=IANNUZZI;21759463]

Originally Posted by Leec33

LOL

There are modded GTRs running 7s in the 1/4, one just went into the 6s. How quick does an M5 run in the 1/4? Dont even go there. The GTR is a purpose built performance car, the M5 is an upgraded 5-series with a chassis that can't keep up with the motor...

LOL

for gtr with 7 sec in. 1/4 mile
how much does It cost ??
I think it will cost more than brand new gtr
and looking for m5 with ( jb4.meth kit,intake ,dp,cp) not more than 2500 $
gain more than 200 whp
thats different we between them

[M5Rlz]

[QUOTE=wheelpro;21762746]

Originally Posted by IANNUZZI

for gtr with 7 sec in. 1/4 mile
how much does It cost ??
I think it will cost more than brand new gtr
and looking for m5 with ( jb4.meth kit,intake ,dp,cp) not more than 2500 $
gain more than 200 whp
thats different we between them

Can run 8.9s on radials (mid 8s on slicks and small 15/17'' tires) for about 48k in mods give or take another 3k in expenditures, so about 51k since I built mine for about 60k. You'd have a stupid reliable car baring freak accidents in this range.

I'd say probably another 40-50k and you'd be deep deep 7s reliability would drop significantly, but still probably get plenty of reliability.

With 09s-12s going for sub 60k USD, and some 09s hitting high 40s USD, you'd be about 140k USD in mods and car to redo an 09.

That said comparing it to what 13'/12 m6's go for nowadays almost 30s, their is no comparison to the costs for each respective build, that said their power is far from comparable when builds are invoked.

[IANNUZZI]

[QUOTE=wheelpro;21762746]

Originally Posted by IANNUZZI

for gtr with 7 sec in. 1/4 mile
how much does It cost ??
I think it will cost more than brand new gtr
and looking for m5 with ( jb4.meth kit,intake ,dp,cp) not more than 2500 $
gain more than 200 whp
thats different we between them

Since you decided not to answer my question i will answer for you!

The M5 has 1 car in the 9s.

The GTR has multiple cars in the 7s and 8s.

GTR has hits 9s on stock turbos, M5 has not.

Not in the same league, regardless of price $$

[M5Rlz]

[QUOTE=IANNUZZI;21762945]

Originally Posted by wheelpro

Since you decided not to answer my question i will answer for you!

The M5 has 1 car in the 9s.

The GTR has multiple cars in the 7s and 8s.

GTR has hits 9s on stock turbos, M5 has not.

Not in the same league, regardless of price $$

To be fair to the OP and people reading this there are other factors at play for the m5, the power is clearly there in these cars to get to 140s trap, but they can't fit a small enough dead hooking tire, the extra weight, and they have an anemic factory launch control.

You are correct though as its an apples to oranges comparison, and really the only reason a comparison is even attempting to be made is how well these cars [and I'd also include other sedans like the C63s, and RS7] do from a roll. So inevitably people will try to compare.

GTR owners do the same though trying to compare their cars at the track to factory built promods/ all out drag cars, their is equally no comparison to them, despite how well they can get 7/8 second power down on the street. When it comes to the track, America is king.

What it really comes down to is reliability. Putting 50k in a GTR with AMS, T1 Race Dev., Boostin', a few of the top tier shops, 50k in mods and 50-60k car you have an 8 second car and very very good reliability baring freak accident, or just bad luck which can happen at that power. Thats the GTR strong suit, at least my time with the car. 46k miles and I had maybe 2ishk of out of pocket repairs and around 50k the new owner did some maintenance in the 2k range, that was missed as I detailed in another thread.

Which to me for all those miles the power it was making 193 in the half, and 9.18 on 18'' Radials you really can't beat having 4k outta pocket repairs over 3 years [2k of which were from R888 drivetrain shock on the trans].

[josec70]

Difficult to really compare these two cars IMO; both great cars in their own right.

If you want a purpose built machine buy a GTR and if you want a luxurious 4 door euro sedan that moves buy an ///M; or f-ck it, buy them both.

[Advantage]

I did multiple pulls against a 2010 FBO GTR over the weekend. At 50 mph and up, my M5 would take down mighty Godzilla. Although I would get some wheel spin at 50, it was nothing like 40 and lower. I need more traction and looking to move to Toyo 888r's when my tires need replacing.

The GTR sounded amazing, looked awesome, and the traction was crazy good. It's a point-and-shoot car that produces consistent results nearly every time. The videos of our races in Mexico are in a private group on Facebook. Not sure how to get those over here. Any suggestions?

[M5Rlz]

Originally Posted by Advantage

I did multiple pulls against a 2010 FBO GTR over the weekend. At 50 mph and up, my M5 would take down mighty Godzilla. Although I would get some wheel spin at 50, it was nothing like 40 and lower. I need more traction and looking to move to Toyo 888r's when my tires need replacing.

The GTR sounded amazing, looked awesome, and the traction was crazy good. It's a point-and-shoot car that produces consistent results nearly every time. The videos of our races in Mexico are in a private group on Facebook. Not sure how to get those over here. Any suggestions?

Just make a youtube and upload them there nobodies gonna come knocking on your door.

[wanesso]

Originally Posted by josec70

Difficult to really compare these two cars IMO; both great cars in their own right.

If you want a purpose built machine buy a GTR and if you want a luxurious 4 door euro sedan that moves buy an ///M; or f-ck it, buy them both.

[wheelpro]

Originally Posted by josec70

Difficult to really compare these two cars IMO; both great cars in their own right.

If you want a purpose built machine buy a GTR and if you want a luxurious 4 door euro sedan that moves buy an ///M; or f-ck it, buy them both.

[v3n0m]

Originally Posted by josec70

Difficult to really compare these two cars IMO; both great cars in their own right.

If you want a purpose built machine buy a GTR and if you want a luxurious 4 door euro sedan that moves buy an ///M; or f-ck it, buy them both.

Ok. Went and did that.