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09-15-2017, 05:37 PM | #2 |
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I like Shmees vids... good quality too. Ill say that the F90 M5 looks better in the vids than in the pictures. I still need to see one in real life though. I really like that S63 Cab.
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09-15-2017, 09:42 PM | #3 |
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Man, what a show! I agree Vic, the M5 overall looked cleaner and tastefully updated. We will just have to see how the new transmission and drivetrain plays out. I also liked the s63 cab but what the heck was up with the tarted up TTRS?
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09-17-2017, 04:11 PM | #4 |
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The F90 M5 looks so much better in the flesh - today saw a Donington Grey at BMW UK Pistonheads event & sat inside - sadly they would not start it up. I prefer its interior to the E63 and the car looks great. The carbon roof looked v nice, the new seats are v comfy.
Also a BMW UK man advised that the comp pack will be available next year with more power, different wheel & colour options. |
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09-17-2017, 05:33 PM | #6 |
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In fairness the BMW man was apologetic & said it was their intention to release both the comp & standard cars at the same time, to match MB launch of the E63 & S simultaneously
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09-18-2017, 10:41 AM | #10 |
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This is also my thinking but you never know, look at Audi's RS7 Performance pack, a 17k option which includes ceramics. Hopefully we'll get the 295's for the rear tires on the CP cars.
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09-18-2017, 10:53 AM | #11 | |
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But if BMW wants to make more money, then I wouldn't include ceramics because I think a lot of people want the power but don't want the ceramics. 17k+ CP package would make many give it up all together. |
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I agree with you re: BMW's intentions. However, the guys in the MB forums seem to be having hard time getting their cars delivered since they're stuck at the VPC. That software upgrade issue they're also experiencing doesn't sound good either. I test drove the Panamera Turbo a couple of weeks ago and it was better than I thought it would be, but I'm not sure it's worth $50k more than the F90 M5 or E63S.
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Turbo S has the power to compete but has the weight of a whale so it seems like Porsche no longer cares to be the best performer in this segment. |
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For me SA test is still the yard stick, hopefully SA will eventually do super test on these cars. |
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This is what I expected. Porsche is much better at building cars that corner well, and the 4 wheel steering and active anti-roll bars are a huge advantage over the Mercedes.
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