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But do leave the racial aspect out of it: it is unrelated to that Verstappen/Perez discussion and uncalled for. Forum rules: "13) NO RACISM ALLOWED. No posts which disparage any groups based on race or religion allowed. Most people who decide to post racist and hateful posts follow-up with some diatribe on freedom of speech. Please remember this is a BMW forum designed for all BMW fans, regardless of race, religion or any other difference. Period. The End."
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I think that tweet from Sophie Kumpen is pretty low if she actually wrote that.
Checo's private affairs are...his private affairs. I assume Sophie wasn't there in the bedroom with Checo, so it's still speculation, and with such a tweet, you're hurting Checo's wife even more. She has nothing to do with this. For sure it's not helping the situation at hand. However I can understand Max' frustration about Monaco. I mean he has a contract with RB, and back then, so had Checo a brand new contract, he signed in Monaco before the race. Obviously no one here knows the content of those contracts, but I'm sure in there it says that Max is the main/first driver (otherwise Max wouldn't have signed for so long). So if Max is convinced that Checo crashed for his own gain, that would be in direct conflict with the agreements they just made. Horner and Marko failed to solve this situation sufficiently back then and now they paid the price for that. Obviously Max showed this year (and last year) that he's way way above Checo when it comes to drivers skills, so it's really up to RB how they solve these kinds of issues. If you have a legend performer, you need a submissive 2nd violin. That's why Bottas was placed next to Hamilton, Barichello next to Schumacher, Berger next to Senna and that's Checo's role next to Max. Maybe Checo was a bit too overconfident in his role because he just signed his new contract... So I wonder how this will go with Mercedes, especially if they manage to get a more competitive car next year. Obviously Russel is the 2nd driver next to Hamilton and fur sure something will have been put down in his contract about this. It was Russel who asked on the radio "are we racing or not" (him and Lewis). A first driver (HAM, VER, etc etc) would never ask that question.
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Autobacs, just looked at 21. I don’t remember as well how that whole season went, but Ocon had one more DNF and Alonso still only beat him by seven points. While Gasly and Ric beat him pretty big point margins that year.
At least Alpine beat Mclaren this year in the constructors title. So there is that. He is making 3-4 times more than Ocon and potentially other young up and comers, he deserves a little more scrutiny/criticism. I don’t blame Alpine for looking elsewhere, too bad they handled about as poorly as they possibly could. |
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I don't think he's overrated at all - once he got the R25, he destroyed prime Schumacher/Ferrari. He's on a similar level to Ric in terms of making absolutely atrocious business decisions but as a driver, he's easily one of the greatest of all time with a soiled resume because of those moves. Ocon is ahead of Alonso for very obvious reasons and none of them are skill related. Fernando is 41 years old - he is still capable of winning a championship on the right team. I'm confident that Ocon will never win a championship or come close to it. |
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Alpine certainly has made some significant steps to the front but I don't see either of those teams being contenders anytime soon. AM is probably less likely considering they're a customer team for engines. I'd assume Alonso is worth the money for developing the car. If you've got mediocre/inexperienced drivers, it's hard to know whether the car is being driven at it's potential and where the weaknesses are. |
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Alpine did get to the top of the mid pack heap this year though so that is obviously something. A lot of that is because they stopped having engines that would go boom during a race to I’m sure. |
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11-16-2022, 02:56 PM | #455 |
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Alonso has been corrosive in just about every team he has been in. The fact that he did what he did at McLaren all those years ago for many make him almost a hate figure.
Ferrari, Renault and now Alpine its always someone else fault not his. Good driver but unfortunately with a huge chip on his shoulder IMO. |
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Have to admit, it's pretty hilarious he got caught. No reason a married father of 3 should be caught in that way. On a boat. Full of hot women. Just don't get caught, but damn he forgot it's 2022 and the iPhone 14 with its super amazing camera lenses, even in the dark. Oye Checo…. |
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PARAPHRASING there is a certain racing line that all drivers take in that sequence of corners when max went round the outside at the first corner and colliding with Lewis in the next corner, Lewis took the natural line, max went off the racing line and rejoined in an unnatural position in the ensuing collision the greater burden of fault was placed on max due to the unnatural racing line |
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11-17-2022, 02:56 AM | #458 | |
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Up next: "comfort zone". Say no longer "F1 driver X overtook F1 driver Y on the inside / around the outside", but say "F1 driver X violated the comfort zone of F1 driver Y. As a result F1 driver X gained an advantage at the expense of F1 driver Y who suffered moral distress from losing a track position". OK, all kidding aside, perfectly aware that there are rules and there is abuse of rules - there are limits to what is reasonably acceptable. But more and more, teams and drivers try to influence race stewards with tactical onboard messages claiming that a violation/abuse was committed by a competing F1 driver, when in reality it just comes down to 'a racing incident' or simply to 'racing' itself. Senna's view about "going for a gap" criticism: 08:08 - 08:29: Example of gaining an advantage through abuse (Hamilton - 2021 Bahrain - final result: race win only 0.745s ahead of Verstappen, who had to give back P1 in lap 53/56 because of track limits violation):
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MV said afterwards he just went for it he had less to lose, the two of them are as bad as each other and bring out the worst in each other. They obviously don't respect each other and are bitter rivals, its kind of what we want sometimes it would be boring if they both went opps sorry after you wouldn't it. |
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Checo denies he crashed on purpose in quali at Portier.
https://racingnews365.com/perez-flat...urt-verstappen |
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Max is sick and tired of clueless media who speculate until jaw lock.
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While all the Max haters are busy exaggerating the Brazilian GP and forgetting about their LH44 doing the same exact thing.
How about Sebastian Vettel not letting Webber pass then saying he'll never be sorry for doing that? |
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