Tuning questions

VETTEPRO · 09-12-2018, 10:56 PM

While I'm a newb to this Forum, I'm not new to the tuning world. I own A&A Corvette Performance/ A&A Superchargers in California. I'm considered a pretty good tuner in the Corvette world. That means absolutely squat in the BMW world and I know it.
I had a '12 550i with the Dinan Stage II package for a "nice" daily driver for a bit and liked it. My other car is a '17 Grand Sport that makes 740 RWHP.
My wife won't even drive it.
Long story short, I just bought a low mile '14 M5 with the Competition Package, Ceramic brakes etc.
I ordered Eibach springs today (had them on the 550 and loved them) and really want a tuning solution to get me in the 700 HP range.
I'd just do the Dinan thing again but I really can't justify $3100 when there seems to be a number of options under $1000.
I really just want opinions from members who have actually used, and have experience with, Burger JB4, Racechip etc. I'm not looking for the cheapest, but Dinan seems way out of line.
Honest reviews by actual users would really be appreciated. Thanks!

apexlocator · 09-13-2018, 01:37 AM

You only mentioned piggyback tunes. If you're open to flash tunes, then you can simply run a stage 1 flash tune from a number of reputable tuners and easily be at 650rwhp/600+rwtq.

VETTEPRO · 09-13-2018, 09:46 AM

I'm not opposed to that. I was looking at a plug and play solution with multiple maps to start with. I have my own dyno and can actually see what each one does. Some come with logging software as well.
If I'm not happy with that, I could always pull it off and go to a tuner.
Thanks for the input.

Pikey Motorsports · 09-13-2018, 10:44 AM

Bootmod3

VETTEPRO · 09-13-2018, 10:57 AM

The Bootmod3 and Openflash look interesting.

OpenFlash · 09-13-2018, 07:18 PM

Openflash Tablet is an excellent option with very proven results AND tuners that would be willing to share our insights and guide you; if you care to tune on your own -- you seem fully capable and equipped to do so.

You can even use our stage tune files as basemaps -- they are totally open and editable -- unlike all other options.

They type of power your after may be a stretch without a turbo upgrade and high quality fuels. What type of dyno do you have?

~Anthony

VETTEPRO · 09-13-2018, 08:35 PM

It’s a Dynojet 224 X-LC. I have a pretty nice dedicated Dyno room that pulls air from the adjacent room to keep things reasonably cool.
I ordered your tablet this morning. Will I be able to integrate my wide band into the software so I can log it?
I’m also a dealer for Alky Control, so I may have to see about hooking a kit up.
I seriously don’t want to become a BMW tuner. The GM stuff makes my head hurt sometimes.

I’ll play with the base maps for a while and see where we end up.
If you’re interested, I can send you a couple of data logs just so you can see how
your base maps are doing.
Thanks, Andy

OpenFlash · 09-13-2018, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by VETTEPRO

It’s a Dynojet 224 X-LC. I have a pretty nice dedicated Dyno room that pulls air from the adjacent room to keep things reasonably cool.
I ordered your tablet this morning. Will I be able to integrate my wide band into the software so I can log it?
I’m also a dealer for Alky Control, so I may have to see about hooking a kit up.
I seriously don’t want to become a BMW tuner. The GM stuff makes my head hurt sometimes.

I’ll play with the base maps for a while and see where we end up.
If you’re interested, I can send you a couple of data logs just so you can see how
your base maps are doing.
Thanks, Andy

Noice!

You won't need an aux WB, the factory sensors on the M5 are WB, and can already be logged.

VETTEPRO · 09-13-2018, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OpenFlash

Noice!

You won't need an aux WB, the factory sensors on the M5 are WB, and can already be logged.

Well that shows how much I know.
I’ve only had the car a week and am already in full “mod” mode.

VETTEPRO · 09-14-2018, 12:41 PM

Ordered the Open Flash Tablet.
Something new to play with on my dyno!
Thanks, Anthony

OneExtra · 09-14-2018, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VETTEPRO

Ordered the Open Flash Tablet.
Something new to play with on my dyno!
Thanks, Anthony

Look forward to a full write up

09-12-2018, 10:56 PM	#1
VETTEPRO First Lieutenant 248 Rep 326 Posts Drives: 2021 X5M Comp, Grigio Telesto Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Ventura California iTrader: (2)	Tuning questions While I'm a newb to this Forum, I'm not new to the tuning world. I own A&A Corvette Performance/ A&A Superchargers in California. I'm considered a pretty good tuner in the Corvette world. That means absolutely squat in the BMW world and I know it. I had a '12 550i with the Dinan Stage II package for a "nice" daily driver for a bit and liked it. My other car is a '17 Grand Sport that makes 740 RWHP. My wife won't even drive it. Long story short, I just bought a low mile '14 M5 with the Competition Package, Ceramic brakes etc. I ordered Eibach springs today (had them on the 550 and loved them) and really want a tuning solution to get me in the 700 HP range. I'd just do the Dinan thing again but I really can't justify $3100 when there seems to be a number of options under $1000. I really just want opinions from members who have actually used, and have experience with, Burger JB4, Racechip etc. I'm not looking for the cheapest, but Dinan seems way out of line. Honest reviews by actual users would really be appreciated. Thanks!
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apexlocator Captain 243 Rep 881 Posts Drives: 2014 M5 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: socal iTrader: (1)	You only mentioned piggyback tunes. If you're open to flash tunes, then you can simply run a stage 1 flash tune from a number of reputable tuners and easily be at 650rwhp/600+rwtq.
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VETTEPRO First Lieutenant 248 Rep 326 Posts Drives: 2021 X5M Comp, Grigio Telesto Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Ventura California iTrader: (2)	I'm not opposed to that. I was looking at a plug and play solution with multiple maps to start with. I have my own dyno and can actually see what each one does. Some come with logging software as well. If I'm not happy with that, I could always pull it off and go to a tuner. Thanks for the input.
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VETTEPRO First Lieutenant 248 Rep 326 Posts Drives: 2021 X5M Comp, Grigio Telesto Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Ventura California iTrader: (2)	The Bootmod3 and Openflash look interesting. __________________ 2021 Individual Grigio Telesto Gray Pearl Metallic X5M C, BC Forged, Dinan tuned, Dinan suspension, MAD Downpipes, Dinan Exhaust. More to come. Owner, Designer, Tuner- A&A Corvette Superchargers WWW.AACORVETTE.COM
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OpenFlash 1736 Rep 17,960 Posts Drives: A Lot Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: SF Bay, CA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2018 Ducati Panigal ... [0.00] 2016 Mazda CX5 [0.00] 2017 Aprilia Tuono ... [0.00] 2019 BMW M2 Competi ... [0.00] 2015 BMW M5 Competi ... [10.00] 2016 Ducati XDiavel S [0.00] 2016 AMG GT S [0.00] 2011 Ferrari 458 It ... [0.00] 2017 Charger Hellcat [0.00] 2015 KTM Super Duke ... [0.00] 2016 KTM RC390 [0.00]	Openflash Tablet is an excellent option with very proven results AND tuners that would be willing to share our insights and guide you; if you care to tune on your own -- you seem fully capable and equipped to do so. You can even use our stage tune files as basemaps -- they are totally open and editable -- unlike all other options. They type of power your after may be a stretch without a turbo upgrade and high quality fuels. What type of dyno do you have? ~Anthony
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09-13-2018, 08:35 PM	#7
VETTEPRO First Lieutenant 248 Rep 326 Posts Drives: 2021 X5M Comp, Grigio Telesto Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Ventura California iTrader: (2)	It’s a Dynojet 224 X-LC. I have a pretty nice dedicated Dyno room that pulls air from the adjacent room to keep things reasonably cool. I ordered your tablet this morning. Will I be able to integrate my wide band into the software so I can log it? I’m also a dealer for Alky Control, so I may have to see about hooking a kit up. I seriously don’t want to become a BMW tuner. The GM stuff makes my head hurt sometimes. I’ll play with the base maps for a while and see where we end up. If you’re interested, I can send you a couple of data logs just so you can see how your base maps are doing. Thanks, Andy __________________ 2021 Individual Grigio Telesto Gray Pearl Metallic X5M C, BC Forged, Dinan tuned, Dinan suspension, MAD Downpipes, Dinan Exhaust. More to come. Owner, Designer, Tuner- A&A Corvette Superchargers WWW.AACORVETTE.COM
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VETTEPRO First Lieutenant 248 Rep 326 Posts Drives: 2021 X5M Comp, Grigio Telesto Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Ventura California iTrader: (2)	Ordered the Open Flash Tablet. Something new to play with on my dyno! Thanks, Anthony __________________ 2021 Individual Grigio Telesto Gray Pearl Metallic X5M C, BC Forged, Dinan tuned, Dinan suspension, MAD Downpipes, Dinan Exhaust. More to come. Owner, Designer, Tuner- A&A Corvette Superchargers WWW.AACORVETTE.COM
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