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      10-09-2012, 11:43 PM   #45
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Hmmmmmm.... Wonder how BMW electric be vs Tesla?!
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      10-09-2012, 11:46 PM   #46
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I'd take the one outta three myself. Whoever was driving the M is not a "driver".
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      10-10-2012, 12:01 AM   #47
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Tesla model S is awesome for sure.
Just imagine it getting that kind of performance and a 300 miles range while only costing you $5 USD to fill a full tank(in US).
Oh did I mention it only takes 1 hour to charge full?
It won't get you that range with that performance bro. trust me.
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      10-10-2012, 12:07 AM   #48
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BMW had a late start and had a horrid launch. Seems like he just floored it to second, and before he gained traction, shifted to third early. Launch Control/Less heavy right foot would have greatly benefited the M5. Nonetheless, that Tesla is damn fast
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      10-10-2012, 12:08 AM   #49
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Ya this is cool if you like guys
That was ridiculous. Not going to hate on the Tesla because I think it is a nice car but at least make it a legit race.
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      10-10-2012, 12:20 AM   #50
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Not only did the tesla jump start the race, the M5 was poorly launched.

I bet with a proper driver they would be even and the M5 would eat it up top.
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      10-10-2012, 12:20 AM   #51
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wow

You could make a Formula 1 car lose with this noob driver.
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      10-10-2012, 12:29 AM   #52
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      10-10-2012, 12:34 AM   #53
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0-100 MPH races.

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Some stats:

Tesla Model S - 443 lb-ft torque @ 0-5100rpm, RWD, 0-60mph 4.4s (factory quoted), 4,647 lbs
F10 M5 - 502 lb-ft torque @ 1500-6560rpm, RWD, 0-62mph 4.4s (factory quoted), 4,288 lbs


What a bloody gay arse test. First, the so-called Tesla started BEFOR the M5, #2 the Launch control (which is designed to stop the rear wheels from spinning on launching) WAS NOT ENGAGED! Do that test again and i guarantee 100% the M5 is the winner!
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      10-10-2012, 12:56 AM   #54
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Ugly at any speed is still ugly.
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v8 is not comparsble to anything else
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      10-10-2012, 01:49 AM   #55
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Really? Who cares who won? Two totally different cars. Tune the M5 and it's no contest. I think the only point is that an electric car can be fast... And of course, on a BMW forum, who is going to prefer the Tesla?
I actually love the Tesla, even setting aside its electric powertrain which is world class in terms of range and performance, its interior and especially its infotainment system are really modern and intuitive unlike any other car. I would own a Tesla Model S and be very happy with it.

But in this comparison, they may as well have used a 528i because the driver lost that race. You can clearly see towards the end of the run when the M5 finally hooks up and is in a proper gear, it's about to come sailing past the Tesla. It's obvious to me that he short-shifted first, hammered it into second and popped the clutch. You can clearly see the tires light up.
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      10-10-2012, 02:37 AM   #56
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15-20 years from now internal combustion engines will be gone in regular passenger cars - you heard it here first.
Nah I don't think that combustion engines will be extinct in that time. I think that combustion engines will continue to evolve as technology gets more advanced. Look at the changes the combustion has been through over the last 40 to 50 years. We've gone from huge discplacement highly inefficient engines to turbo charged and supercharged monsters that make way more power and are way more efficient. I think it's just gonna get better.
I agree and dissagree with both statements. fully electric cars will never do well in the economy to the vast majority of ppl. if you live in say Tokyo and 85% of your yearly driving is in the busy city n u can plug it in at work n home then yes that will work.

now the combustion engine has come along way yes, from steam engines to high displacement engines to engines on todays standards. I believe that internal combustion engine will still be around in that 30-50 year's time but just used a lil differently like more advanced hybrids or in hydrogen fuel cell cars in later research.
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      10-10-2012, 03:49 AM   #57
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Really? Who cares who won? Two totally different cars. Tune the M5 and it's no contest. I think the only point is that an electric car can be fast... And of course, on a BMW forum, who is going to prefer the Tesla?
Honestly though. Seems like we've got ourselves a bunch of BMW fanboy H8ers!! Get off it for just a minute. The M5 is a Wicked car that will run circles around the Tesla any day of the week.

Consider this: How long has BMW been around engineering M cars? Better yet, engineering cars?

...and Tesla? This is their second model, and still solely BATTERY POWERED! VERY BIG FRIGGAN DEAL!

Props to Tesla and props to the falla making this video, When was the last time you were entertained by something completely honest with no imagination (insert sarcastic facial gesture)? Can anyone here say #Avengers?

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      10-10-2012, 05:49 AM   #58
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      10-10-2012, 06:52 AM   #59
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It's cool that the tesla won but come on, that m5 sounded beautiful. And if the m5 was correctly launched, the tesla probably wouldn't have beat the m5 by that much.
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What they don't show is the M5 towing the Tesla back to a charging station so it can drive home (after 3 hours)
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What they don't show is the M5 towing the Tesla back to a charging station so it can drive home (after 3 hours)
LOL. I died.
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I dont look at this as a drag race, but more as to how electric cars became something enjoyable now.
Despite the outcome on this video (i do agree, it was a bit skewed) you can see how electric power is producing dreat results and is much easier to use.
Not many family sedans in this world could race new M5 from stop light to stop light these days, Not to mention a car with 0 tailpipe emission
And do 1/4mile in 12.5 with less than 4s 0-60
Tesla, IMO, has done a great job with this car

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...n/viewall.html
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      10-10-2012, 08:48 AM   #63
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after the 100 mph run the Tesla now has about a 20 mile range . . . .
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      10-10-2012, 09:51 AM   #64
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This is such a shame. It's so obnoxious when car mags perform disingenuous testing like this ( I expect more out of Automobile ). The M5 and Model S are a very, very interesting comparison. Name an electric sedan that could even come *close* to M5 level performance prior to the Model S? This is a huge deal.

Instead of talking about that, we're all hung up on the fact that the Model S driver jumped the gun on the M5 driver by 0.3 to 0.5 seconds in what amounts to a street race. When performance is almost identical, RT makes a difference.

Having said all that, the Model S still gets out of the hole better than the M5. I think there are a handful of reasons for this:

* The M5 driver didn't use launch control; DUMB!
* The output of an electric motor is a lot easier to control and reacts much faster to "throttle" changes; this makes launch control systems more effective
* The torque output of an electric motor from a full stop is very close to linear, which means it can apply all its available force from a full stop; pretty amazing

I think that even with a dead even start, the Model S would get out of the hole more quickly. From a tuner's perspective, electric cars could be a lot of fun. Anyone who isn't excited about electric cars isn't a "real" enthusiast (no true scotsman, holla!). I love the sound of an ICE, but I can find plenty of things to love about electrics as well.
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i dont care how you look at it, M5 lost to a car that does 300 miles without no gas, thats impressive. In regards to combustion engines extinction, hmm, interesting theory, if we cant get oil we might be going to only electric engines soon, time will tell.
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