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      02-11-2024, 11:56 PM   #23
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It's not really a pony car. Pony cars are stupid. Challenger is more like a standard sized coupe. It's a more useful size, where you can fit a human into the backseat. For that size class it's perfectly fine weight wise.
So basically it's a Charger with two doors.
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      02-12-2024, 08:30 AM   #24
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So basically it's a Charger with two doors.
Yes. That's almost exactly what it is. Not a bad thing either.

TBH, I kinda view it as more like a modern Pontiac GTO vs a Camaro. It fits more in line with something like a BMW 6 or 8 than it does a 2 or 4. It's intentionally bigger, and that's as good thing. That extra size and comfort and space is why it thoroughly trounced mustang and Camaro sales.
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Yes. That's almost exactly what it is. Not a bad thing either.

TBH, I kinda view it as more like a modern Pontiac GTO vs a Camaro. It fits more in line with something like a BMW 6 or 8 than it does a 2 or 4. It's intentionally bigger, and that's as good thing. That extra size and comfort and space is why it thoroughly trounced mustang and Camaro sales.
For unknown reasons, Ford set the Mustang advertising budget at zero. For a couple years you couldn't turn on the TV without seeing a Dodge boy doing burnouts in a Challenger/Charger.
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      02-12-2024, 10:17 AM   #26
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I had a 2018 Hellcat A8 w/707hp.

Put 27.5K miles on the car. Never tracked the car.

It was ok on my 60 mile a day work commute -- about 58 miles freeway -- as long as I didn't keep track of how much I spent for fuel. Also, I had a 2nd car -- 2018 MINI JCW 6-speed -- which I drove 3 days a week. The Hellcat got the call just 2 days a week mainly to give it some use. It did not like to sit unused for long. Battery drain was a thing and while the engine always fired up the low battery level caused a low power glitch which upset some of the car's electronics.

Was living in Livermore CA at the time and there were some nice "mountain" roads about. Roads I had enjoyed in my Boxster, Cayman S, Porsche Turbo, but on which the Hellcat was clearly out of its element. Sure, it never was touted as a sports car but gee the handling... As an aside it didn't work in favor of the Hellcat it came fitted with all season tires... I bought it off showroom floor and was too cheap to toss new all season tires for high performance tires.

After 33 months and 27.5K miles I traded the Hellcat in for a 2020 Scat Pack 6-speed. A less powerful car -- to state the obvious -- with "just" 485hp but 200+lbs lighter than the Hellcat and with a noticeable lower center of gravity. That supercharger even though situated quite low on top of the Hellcat engine still had the Hellcat center of gravity uncomfortably high. The Scat Pack came with high performance tires which made half a world of difference and for the better. Now living in Benton County AR with some very nice roads about the Scat Pack was actually enjoyable on these roads.

But after 18 months I traded in the Scat Pack for a 2022 BMW 230i.

While I no longer have the 230i -- I traded it in when I bought a 2023 M2 6-speed -- I recently (last Dec. 3) bought a 2024 230i xDrive.

Monday's forecast calls for 4" of snow. So the 230i xDrive is a better fit for me than the 230i with just RWD.
Keeping it on a trickle charger when not in use = no glitches. Never had 1 with my Hellcat. Over 40k miles so far. It was my daily since new until this winter.
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Getting hilarious how many versions of challengers there are. I'm waiting for the "Final Edition. No Seriously, This is It," Edition, and the subsequent "Ok, One More Time,
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Dodge Demon 170 Jailbreak: Secret Special Edition Offered to Just 40 Customers!

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It's a shame the world is becoming more and more class specific. That was always the thing about SRT, it was a bit more focused on "regular guys" that's were willing to spend a little more and get some that was more badass.

I get why they do stuff like this, but that doesn't mean I have to like it.
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Keeping it on a trickle charger when not in use = no glitches. Never had 1 with my Hellcat. Over 40k miles so far. It was my daily since new until this winter.
A trickle charger wasn't possible. I only had a carport with no electrical outlet.

My cure for the drop off of the battery due to lack of sufficient use was to drive the car more. I ended up using it 2 days a week to drive to/from work, 60 miles round trip. This was in northern CA (Livemore CA) and in that area winter driving was not a problem. Winter in Livermore was really just cloudy days...
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      02-29-2024, 05:00 PM   #32
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A 170 recently sold for a little over $150k on BAT.
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IDGAD what nobody says... Low 9's in the wild is BONKERS QUICK!!!

The only time I've driven that quick was in a custom TT Audi R8 which costs significantly more than this Dodge.

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2023...ragstrip-pass/

2023 Dodge Demon 170 Runs Low 9s in the Wild
First privately owned “Last Call” Dodge Challenger SRT Demon 170 makes dragstrip pass in 9.39 seconds going over 147mph.


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With Steven behind the wheel, his 2023 Demon 170 ran the quarter-mile at Island in 9.398 seconds at 147.73 mph, which he says can and will be improved on. We're definitely along for that ride, and will keep you apprised if ... well, more likewhenit becomes the first privately owned 2023 Dodge Challenger SRT Demon 170 in the 8s.

Stock as a Rock

Steven Ripa's 2023 Dodge Challenger SRT Demon 170 was tested in bone-stock trim, with absolutely nothing done to its supercharged 6.2-liter Hemi V-8 or any other powertrain components. The drive to Island Dragway in Great Meadows, New Jersey, was his first time piloting the street-legal race car since taking delivery of it from the dealer.
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