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You want a car that accelerates but doesn't turn or stop? Why would you want that?
If you need winter tyres on the rear, you need them just as much or more on the front. Anyone who tells you different is talking out of his ....err....is incorrect Last edited by SteveC; 10-31-2015 at 05:30 PM.. |
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| 11-01-2015, 03:29 PM | #5 | |
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 .. just looking for some help and not smart arse comments as previous posters.. turns out Ive been driving accident free for 30 years ?  touch wood... long may that continueI'm no track racer but just a bit frustrated with the weather here in Scotland, and would rather save my Michelins for summer as they are a bit too much rubber for our wet roads in winter I feel From some research these continentals seem to be good https://www.tyreleader.co.uk/car-tyr...19-104w-131584 I see them mentioned elsewhere here .. but in reality .. I'm wondering if its worth doing at all ? .. I dont take my M out in the ice or snow, and I live in a really hilly area, so I'm just looking for something to enhance my wet weather driving |
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| 11-01-2015, 07:30 PM | #6 |
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It depends on the temperatures you generally face. If you are regularly seeing less than 7C then winter rubber might help you out because it is softer. Otherwise, in warm temps, the Michelin PSS are some of the best wet road tires I have ever driven - far superior to winters.
I don't run the conti's you linked for my winters, I run Michelin PA4's and I'm pretty happy with them as far as winter tires go. If you do drive in low temps, I would also suggest changing all 4 rather than just 2 tires so that you maintain balanced handling characteristics. |
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| 11-02-2015, 03:17 AM | #7 | |
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Here's the thing. The standard Michelins do not function AT ALL in winter conditions. Premium winter tyres are world's better when temperatures are very low. One day last winter I took my car out and the roads were wet. As I drove South it started to gently snow but not settle. As I progressed the snow got worse and I noticed it was settling on parts of the motorway that weren't driven. I decided to turn around and took the next off ramp, which was a very gentle incline up to a huge roundabout. There were a couple of cars waiting to enter the roundabout and the road surface had maybe an inch of slush. It came to my turn to pull onto the roundabout...I had about 300 yards of visibility and the road was clear so I started to very gently pull away. Unfortunately all I got was spinning wheels and very little forward motion. A truck appeared and I had to stop. I had two more attempts, by which time my heart rate was way high and I had a queue of cars forming behind me. My car would simply spin its wheels and edge forward at a snails pace, gathering no speed. Anyone coming around the roundabout would assume I was going to pull away and would not make allowance for the fact I had absolutely no traction and could not get out of their way. Eventually I did get going but only after creeping onto the roundabout and taking a couple of hundred meters to gain some momentum. I took my car straight home and left it there. So its not just taking your car out in snow and ice.....you shouldn't take it out with even a chance of freezing conditions because it will get you into trouble the moment there's so much as an ice crystal on the road surface |
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| 11-02-2015, 03:00 PM | #8 |
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Well it seems the conti's are about £300 notes cheaper for the set of 4 , than the Michelins but the P4's seem to be well regarded, and I suppose as it was the pss that was the stock fit, I should go with them ? My local fitters are happy to fit Internet bought tyres which is good ... I'm also of the mind that although its an extra expense, it will preserve more rubber on the super sports for summer use.. .. I often drive in the Scottish highlands and really would prefer some extra technology at the business end as the weather can be so foul.
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| 11-02-2015, 04:29 PM | #9 |
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OK .. deal done .. I drive a very different set of vehicles daily as I have my own business. The largest is a 30 tonne truck (which I have drifted
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| 11-03-2015, 01:20 AM | #12 |
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Use winter tyres on all 4 wheels. Dunlop or Pirelli are a good choice.
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| 11-03-2015, 07:14 AM | #13 | |
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Can you get winter tyres which fit on the stock 343m 20' alloys? or do you have to buy a set of smaller alloys? |
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http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthr...ghlight=winter Also, I was dropping some truth along with humor on the threadstarter. I would be very uncomfortable even driving in cold non snowy weather with increased traction on the rears but leaving the front set summers. Seems like a good way to get into an understeering death slide in traffic. |
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| 11-03-2015, 10:03 AM | #17 |
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i got Pirelli Sottozero 240 on 19" BMW OEM setup. Square so all wheels the same. Currently being stored by BMW UK. My BMW Stealer charges £100 a year for storage and the double switch over.
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| 11-17-2015, 09:13 AM | #18 |
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Ok so thats them fitted I fitted exactly the same size as OEM which was from memory 265x40 on the front and 295x35 on the rears on 19" rims. They were Michelin Pilot Aplin PA 4's which have quite an agressive pattern on them. So far so good .. bit early to say until they scrub in a bit, but havent lost any real rear traction yet under usual acceleration which is better than the PSS's in the wet. The car does feel a little bit squirmier though, probably due to the blockier tread pattern and newness so far. But I'm happy with that as grip will be better in other areas which was my primary concern. IIRC one dealer told me that these were a stock order part for Porche 911 ? cant vouch for that though
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