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my statement was regarding yours about people blindingly buying this new car. For what we are paying for this caliber car it needed to be justified. I'm having a hard time justifiying AWD, a cool valve cover and new interior, for 1300+ a month. All while feeling like i'm looking at a slightly updated f10 bodystlye. |
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If I was choosing a sedan, I would take the E63S over the new M5. But without having test driven the Mercedes, I think I would take the Panamera Turbo over both. There are good deals on 2017 Panny Turbos so the price diff is pretty small.
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I wonder if M5 going xDrive is scaring Audi just a bit...
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I keep it real:
8 M's makes me fanMAN But this one might not make the list.
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All this being said, watch for large PCNA trunk money and subvented leasing rates like they did a few years back to move the last gen (which didnt full execute).
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I have only every bought one new car (E90 M3) and probably won't do that again, my F10 M5 was 18m old with 7k miles at a LOT less than new. IF I was spending £90k on a saloon car it needs to look better, however good the chassis is |
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Given how Panny can be species it's a different league from price point perspective and hence not a competition to M5 or E63S.
Don't like the looks of E63S one bit - looks like a bastard child of S class and C class. MB exterior designers have gotten incredibly lazy with this S M L approach. F90 looks really nice from the exterior. I think there is enough going on here from an exterior perspective that I don't confuse it with a LCI. Not a fan of how the rear taillights look but that's a small grimace to have. Interior - don't like the seats. They are too racerboy. Don't like the shift knob - what the hell are all those buttons??? And they made them shiny plastic? That's a fingerprint magnate. Would drive me nuts owning that. Hopefully it's an option to wood, aluminum, CF etc in the center console. Besides that the interior looks really crisp. I think leasing would need to be the way to go on this car and not until LCI comes out. I'm going to be replacing my F10 M5 with something else next year. MB doesn't get car tech. I would argue off all the major European luxury manufacturers (Audi, BMW, Porsche, Volvo), MB has the worst tech in business. Ok well maybe better than Jags and RR! Tech is a big piece of these cars now - I won't buy a MB DD simply for that reason (AMG GTS is not a daily drive so it's ok).
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Without seeing it in the flesh (which is where BMW often excels in the subtleties of design) I'm surprised how steady the new car looks. Was expecting something at least a little more dramatic. But then the design philosophy throughout the model lines (excepting the i cars) seems to be the same iterative approach. I don't think the RS6 or E63 sedans look better than the M5, their wagons on the other hand are handsome beasts.
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For me it will be the new M5 if it can be delivered in early 2018. I personally dislike Mercedes cars, Audi has a very bad customer service in Germany and the Porsche Panamera has only 4 seats. So there is actually no alternative.
I hope that the 4WD will add more traction which was the major problem of the F10. Also the Michelin P4s have less traction than the PSS. And I hope that the automatic transmission is more comfortable than the DCT in daily driving.
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