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      02-06-2019, 11:29 AM   #1
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F90 M5 parts used to upgrade F10 M5?

Considering the "NEW" M5 is utilising the same (very similar) engine, are there any components from the F90 setup that can be used to upgrade the F10?
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F90 cross link

Ditto on that information request.
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New M5's HPFP would be a great upgrade
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Excuse my ignorance, but what is the HPFP?
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Excuse my ignorance, but what is the HPFP?
high pressure fuel pump
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Thanks for the info. How much better is the F90 pump supposed to be?
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Thanks for the info. How much better is the F90 pump supposed to be?
not sure to be honest. but i recently updated my fuel pump to the newer revised version from 2014+ M5. i kept getting fuel pump malfunction and car going into limp mode in 3rd gear.
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New M5's HPFP would be a great upgrade
That's a great point! From what I recall one of the shortcomings of making more power on this platform was running out of fuel. I'd imagine this is an ideal upgrade for those of us making over 800whp.
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Would be great if someone comes out with upgraded HPFP and LPFP.

I'm sure there is more to it than just swapping the pumps, otherwise I think it would have been done.

However, would love if someone did the research and released aftermarket option.
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Would be great if someone comes out with upgraded HPFP and LPFP.

I'm sure there is more to it than just swapping the pumps, otherwise I think it would have been done.

However, would love if someone did the research and released aftermarket option.
Here is an upgraded low pressure fuel pump with a 450lph pump

http://www.eurotuninggroup.com/produ...de-bmw-f10-m5/
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Here is an upgraded low pressure fuel pump with a 450lph pump

http://www.eurotuninggroup.com/produ...de-bmw-f10-m5/
Kind of hard to tell if this pump would work without some specific data and specifications.
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Would be great if someone comes out with upgraded HPFP and LPFP.

I'm sure there is more to it than just swapping the pumps, otherwise I think it would have been done.

However, would love if someone did the research and released aftermarket option.
Here is an upgraded low pressure fuel pump with a 450lph pump

http://www.eurotuninggroup.com/produ...de-bmw-f10-m5/
Doesn't matter, stock HPFP will still limit
Fueling.

The pump they have is a good pump
But again no data.

I was going to order it but could never get ahold
Of the guy not get any info if infact it was plug and play
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I am going to contact ECS and see what they can come up with.
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I am going to contact ECS and see what they can come up with.
Sweet, let me know.
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not sure to be honest. but i recently updated my fuel pump to the newer revised version from 2014+ M5. i kept getting fuel pump malfunction and car going into limp mode in 3rd gear.
There is a recent service bulletin to get fuel related items replaced under warranty from BMW including the HPFP
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not sure to be honest. but i recently updated my fuel pump to the newer revised version from 2014+ M5. i kept getting fuel pump malfunction and car going into limp mode in 3rd gear.
There is a recent service bulletin to get fuel related items replaced under warranty from BMW including the HPFP
Yes and I have the updated ones but they are still only designed for stock fueling, not any kind of upgrade that we would be looking for running 1,000 hp
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Considering the "NEW" M5 is utilising the same (very similar) engine, are there any components from the F90 setup that can be used to upgrade the F10?
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New M5's HPFP would be a great upgrade
Are they better than the LCI F10 M5 models?
Do you reckon there are some other parts we can think of?

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not sure to be honest. but i recently updated my fuel pump to the newer revised version from 2014+ M5. i kept getting fuel pump malfunction and car going into limp mode in 3rd gear.
I currently have a 2012 M5 with the factory HPFP and yes I do get "Drivetrain" error at 4th gear sometimes. I'm Stg2 with Stock Turbos at the moment. Been thinking of getting the +2014 CP HPFP and wanting to bring that topic with the dealership as I'm still under warranty. Is there any specific area where I can look for Recalls (aka Service Bulletins)?
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Considering the "NEW" M5 is utilising the same (very similar) engine, are there any components from the F90 setup that can be used to upgrade the F10?
Off topic, but if the engine is similar....I wonder how the rods will hold up with AWD launches once we get some aggressive tuned St2's or Pure Turbo F90's...
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Considering the "NEW" M5 is utilising the same (very similar) engine, are there any components from the F90 setup that can be used to upgrade the F10?
Off topic, but if the engine is similar....I wonder how the rods will hold up with AWD launches once we get some aggressive tuned St2's or Pure Turbo F90's...
Same rods and some have already bent not being pushed. still a weak point for this motor when you push the boost.
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Off topic, but if the engine is similar....I wonder how the rods will hold up with AWD launches once we get some aggressive tuned St2's or Pure Turbo F90's...
George at MSR already has a complete package for the F90 that he has been testing for a while now. He was nice enough to share the pics of the F90 M5 and the X5M with his upgraded packages.

He has an intake, DP's, tune, exhaust and a beautiful set of wheels for these cars. Sent me a lot of really nice pics of the cars and I will ask if I can share them here. He says that Vbox reading of 60 to 130 of the stock car is 9.0 and he has the car down in the 6.2 range with his mods on it.
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I would like to update this thread and let everyone know the F90 HPFP is a direct bolt on, but you do need to solder in a new pig tail.

Here is the pumps and pig tails needed to get it done. 50% more fuel is a win win!

https://euroklasse.com/products/bmw-...fps-w-adaptprs
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