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      11-15-2012, 10:56 AM   #23
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Adam is putting down about 30+more hp on the same dyno. His car is a beast. I had a ton of weight with close to 3/4 tank 91 octane gas and a passenger... I was fat, regardless he was faster. Well see next time.

Oh and you are stock
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      11-15-2012, 12:17 PM   #24
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now this makes no sense to me whatsoever... I raced Adam, and we were almost neck and neck, i got him first race by a car cause of wheel spin, and he got me second race by a car... Unless Nick did something wrong here, makes no sense...
I'll get BP your run vs. Adam, your car moves out Serge so don't sweat it, but when we compare different races we don't always know the specifics, but based on this run with a built C6 Z06, which Adam ran even with, it does makes more sense Broski.

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How much hp does it put to the wheels? According to eas videos ess vt2 m3s have far less whp than this stock m5 f10 on the same dyno, so it's a bit strange that it was beaten like that..

did you take into consideration that the weight is probably not transferred on the dyno? also these 2 cars have different aero dynamic differences that cause air drag. I believe the M3 is more aero dynamic than the saloon M5.
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IMO ESS M3 for the win all day!! F10 M5 TT V8 vs E92 M3 V8 SC = M3 FTW!! Lighter car, higher redline, more aero dynamic, and a better chassis!
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did you take into consideration that the weight is probably not transferred on the dyno? also these 2 cars have different aero dynamic differences that cause air drag. I believe the M3 is more aero dynamic than the saloon M5.
The VT600 M3 in the video made 550WHP SAE CF and 570WHP STD CF, I believe that's more than a stock F10 M5.
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did you take into consideration that the weight is probably not transferred on the dyno? also these 2 cars have different aero dynamic differences that cause air drag. I believe the M3 is more aero dynamic than the saloon M5.
The VT600 M3 in the video made 550WHP SAE CF and 570WHP STD CF, I believe that's more than a stock F10 M5.
On the same dyno as Adam I got 530hp SAE
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On the same dyno as Adam I got 530hp SAE
Nick, your car is an absolute beast stock. I had no idea it was going to hold up so well against so many modified cars. While I look forward to running you again after you have been tuned, I have a feeling it's going to be a different outcome unless I continuing modding.

I think two of the surprises of the event were your car and Eric's E63 as they look like executive cars, not race cars...which is what you guys were running against.
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IMO ESS M3 for the win all day!! F10 M5 TT V8 vs E92 M3 V8 SC = M3 FTW!! Lighter car, higher redline, more aero dynamic, and a better chassis!
You'll be eating your words when it goes against a tuned and not stock M5!
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You'll be eating your words when it goes against a tuned and not stock M5!
Hahaha +1, A nice tune, downpipes and upgraded turbos Bye Bye.
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the exhaust and downpipes will be here shortly....tune will be 100% ready by next airstrip event..should be interesting.
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Right, but he made it look like the M5 was down 200-300hp.


How about we follow some logic?
If A > B and B > C then we can say that A > C right?

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If the M5 is side by side with the GTR and the VT625 just barely beats the GTR, how is it putting amtrak lengths on that F10 M5?

That's what people are comparing it to.


toooootally.

i dont know how everyone is saying it makes sense.

must have been the fact that it was his last run of the day.
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Right, but he made it look like the M5 was down 200-300hp.


How about we follow some logic?
If A > B and B > C then we can say that A > C right?

So:







If the M5 is side by side with the GTR and the VT625 just barely beats the GTR, how is it putting amtrak lengths on that F10 M5?

That's what people are comparing it to.
Nothing wrong with comparing other vids, but the VT625 in the above vids you are using as an analogy is a 6MT, not DCT, HUGE difference on Supercharged M3's. Secondly there were plenty of runs between different cars at this event, same day, same cars, where the outcome was similar in most cases. The results make perfect sense.

Let's compare the SAME cars same day against the SAME Modded C6 Z06, and you'll see it makes sense.

F10 M5 vs SAME Modded C6 Z06



Supercharged M3 vs SAME Modded C6 Z06

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