Horner in trouble at Red Bull

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Ayrton Senna's first F1 car | The Story of Toleman Director's Cut
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[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Artemis

The usually well-informed German magazine Auto Motor und Sport earlier today: Max Verstappen's salary package has been internally approved by Mercedes. Including all success bonuses, it's told to be more expensive than the one of Lewis Hamilton.

This may get Verstappen closer to striking a Mercedes deal soon as F1 driver and brand ambassador for either 2025 or 2026.

Up to Max to decide if he wants to make the move. 2026 regs will reshuffle the field again. IMHO Mercedes could be the proper choice for him.

There's also job satisfaction, sure Merc may or may not be tempting MAX with all sorts of offerings with promises but we know he has pots of money anyway

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

There's also job satisfaction, sure Merc may or may not be tempting MAX with all sorts of offerings with promises but we know he has pots of money anyway

A hypothetical move to Mercedes in 2025 won't offer 'instant gratification' for Verstappen (likely a transitional year, fighting for podium places).

But a more competitive Mercedes car can be expected in 2026.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Artemis

A hypothetical move to Mercedes in 2025 won't offer 'instant gratification' for Verstappen (likely a transitional year, fighting for podium places).

But a more competitive Mercedes car can be expected in 2026.

The whole situation depends on how strong the Ford PU will be in 2026.
Wolff can wisper to MAX some exciting fairy tales of how strong the Mercedes PU will be .
Just to get MAX in his Mercedes seat !

MAX wants to see the hard facts (of course)! But Wolff can't show him that. (not yet)!

And there's more than just the new 2026 PU. It's also about the complete new 2026 aero package because then active aero is allowed .

Active Aero ?
IMHO , A.Newey is the right man for that (at Red Bull)!
So , at this moment MAX don't wants to gamble .
BTW : As we know , MAX never raced for the money but to win races .

[TTM0TION]

I hope Newey goes to AM. Lol

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

The whole situation depends on how strong the Ford PU will be in 2026.
Wolff can wisper to MAX some exciting fairy tales of how strong the Mercedes PU will be .
Just to get MAX in his Mercedes seat !

MAX wants to see the hard facts (of course)! But Wolff can't show him that. (not yet)!

And there's more than just the new 2026 PU. It's also about the complete new 2026 aero package because then active aero is allowed .

Active Aero ?
IMHO , A.Newey is the right man for that (at Red Bull)!
So , at this moment MAX don't wants to gamble .
BTW : As we know , MAX never raced for the money but to win races .

This. An instant turnaround for a bad Merc design won't be solved should the Merc have slightly more electric motor power in '26.
Ford are on the case too.

[Artemis]

[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by Artemis

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Carlos to Mercedes

[dfox]

Should be a fun silly season.

Sainz to Merc makes the most sense.

I'm curious to see how the bottom 5 teams shake out though. Does Bottas continue on? Ric has to go. Does Bearman get a seat. Lawson should definitely get a seat. Gasly to Williams to give Sargent the boot? So many questions.

[///M Power-Belgium]

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[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by dfox

Should be a fun silly season.

Sainz to Merc makes the most sense.

I'm curious to see how the bottom 5 teams shake out though. Does Bottas continue on? Ric has to go. Does Bearman get a seat. Lawson should definitely get a seat. Gasly to Williams to give Sargent the boot? So many questions.

RIC first gets a new chassis next week in China , and if he still s@cks ...
Then It's over for him !

[///M Power-Belgium]

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

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I like Carlos but not enough for me to cheer for him at the Evil Empire. I do wish him well tho

I've only liked 3 drivers enough to pull for them at teams other than Ferrari:

Senna, Mansell and of course "The Peoples Champion" Kimi

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Why Prost thinks Verstappen's titles are worthless
In an interview with Sports Illustrated's Lydia Mee, Alain Prost praises Max Verstappen. But the four-time Formula One world champion is disappointed that the Dutchman does not have regular competition.
The Frenchman hopes Mercedes and Ferrari can get back into the fight with Red Bull Racing as soon as possible. "Mercedes and Ferrari have a better chance if, like Red Bull, they find a real first driver and focus more on that. It's a pity they don't have that at the moment. Hopefully next year they will, and then we'll get another great fight."

One more reason Alain Prost is a ass.

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Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Why Prost thinks Verstappen's titles are worthless
In an interview with Sports Illustrated's Lydia Mee, Alain Prost praises Max Verstappen. But the four-time Formula One world champion is disappointed that the Dutchman does not have regular competition.
The Frenchman hopes Mercedes and Ferrari can get back into the fight with Red Bull Racing as soon as possible. "Mercedes and Ferrari have a better chance if, like Red Bull, they find a real first driver and focus more on that. It's a pity they don't have that at the moment. Hopefully next year they will, and then we'll get another great fight."

One more reason Alain Prost is a ass.

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I never liked that big nose MF'er

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

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No confirmation yet of a deal between Sainz and Mercedes.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Artemis

No confirmation yet of a deal between Sainz and Mercedes.

Back to topic ...

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Back to topic ...

The likeness is there heheh

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

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I can't help thinking that s#at on by Ferrari Carlo is the fall guy even with his success he is wanting by some but for the behind the scenes dirty dealings.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

I can't help thinking that s#at on by Ferrari Carlo is the fall guy even with his success he is wanting by some but for the behind the scenes dirty dealings.

In terms of performance : LEW will be 90% marketing and 10% driver at Ferrari ...

Charlie will beat the 5H1T out of him !

Yeah It's too bad for Carlito. True shame for motorsports(!)

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

In terms of performance : LEW will be 90% marketing and 10% driver at Ferrari ...

Charlie will beat the 5H1T out of him !

Yeah It's too bad for Carlito. True shame for motorsports(!)

In a phone call to Monty, Piero is saying to Monty that it will be good for the marque to have LEW in and after a while awaiting a response Piero can't understand why there is silence on the other line.

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so Newey is gone eh? if he goes to Ferrari, i really dont know how the RBR fans here are gonna be able to handle it.