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      01-14-2025, 07:07 AM   #1
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M cars now account for nearly 10% of BMW sales (over 200k sold in 2024)

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- New figures from BMW show the performance M division had its best ever year in 2024.

- The M division sold 206,582 vehicles, accounting for 9.4 percent of total BMW production.

- The M2 and M3 both experienced growth but the electric i4 M50 was the best seller.
      01-14-2025, 09:38 AM   #2
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The link does not work for me. Is the 10% real M cars like M5 or does it include the watered down versions like M550i?
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      01-14-2025, 09:43 AM   #3
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The link does not work for me. Is the 10% real M cars like M5 or does it include the watered down versions like M550i?
Exactly my question as well. It's not clear from the article, but based on the numbers I would guess it does include the "M Performance" models.

The closest quote from the article seems to be this (which is clear as mud):

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The good news for more hardcore M fans is that the brand’s true M cars experienced massive growth ensuring they’ll be with us for a while to come. And we don’t just mean they’re ‘true’ M cars because they’re powered by combustion engines. BMW itself make a distinction between M (performance) models like the M340i, X7 M60i and i4 M50i and what it calls “high-performance” M models like the M2, M3 and M5.
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      01-14-2025, 09:47 AM   #4
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The link does not work for me. Is the 10% real M cars like M5 or does it include the watered down versions like M550i?
asking the important questions
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      01-14-2025, 11:59 AM   #5
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Irrelevant since M lite cars are included
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      01-14-2025, 12:02 PM   #6
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Irrelevant since M lite cars are included
Exactly. Why is this front page news
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      01-14-2025, 12:02 PM   #7
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I believe all M Performance models are included in that figure. While BMW recognizes M Performance and “True M” as separate models, I believe they’re considered together with regards to BMW M.

Mercedes does the same thing with “AMG lite” and “AMG Pure” when referring to AMG from what I can read from releases.
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      01-14-2025, 12:03 PM   #8
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When everything is an M car... It's all about the marketing.
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      01-14-2025, 12:04 PM   #9
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...and diamond sales are also expected to increase this year at double digit rates (including lab- grown diamonds though)
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      01-14-2025, 12:06 PM   #10
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Yep, this includes the M performance line as well as the limited CS models. As I understand it, Benz is doing the same thing with their AMG lite cars as well.
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      01-14-2025, 12:07 PM   #11
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Agree with everyone else. M-sport vehicles in the past would never have been counted since, they are not M vehicles, so why is the new equivalent of them being counted now other than to just falsely boost sales figures ❓
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      01-14-2025, 12:11 PM   #12
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When everything is an M car... It's all about the marketing.
Indeed
M as in Marketing segment of their assortment
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      01-14-2025, 12:16 PM   #13
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It’s just to be able to charge more on the M lites.
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      01-14-2025, 12:18 PM   #15
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Whatever keeps the bean counters happy. But if it continues to add budget to M, the enthusiasts should remain quiet and happy.
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It's wild to me how BMW have transformed M sport pack cars into their own models and then lump them with actual M cars. Wtf lol.
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m lite and m sport cars are included... they are pumping numbers and clearly its working as average price of models has skyrocketed

nothing below a true comp model should have an m badge on it but here we are
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Important because the i4 M50 was the best selling M branded car.

That says a lot about M and pure electric M.

It has been the most popular M branded car now for two years running.
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M Performance models: biggest scam
I don't think so. "M" has just come to mean "increased performance over the base model." So in that light it's not a scam, it's just providing increased performance without having to buy a much more expensive, and difficult to deal with true M-Car.
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The letter "M" has been watered down lately.
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Agree with everyone else. M-sport vehicles in the past would never have been counted since, they are not M vehicles, so why is the new equivalent of them being counted now other than to just falsely boost sales figures ❓
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