Here's a good reason why we can never really trust Press Car numbers.

RPiM5 · 02-04-2016, 09:41 AM

Somethings not right here.

shahano · 02-05-2016, 03:16 AM

whatttttt

stealth.pilot · 02-09-2016, 08:18 AM

Well what can we say. It's the Italian way.

HXS · 02-09-2016, 08:26 AM

Things that make you go hmmmm.

Vic55 · 02-09-2016, 09:34 AM

Didn't the M5, when it first came out in the press, have some minor tweak or tune for more hp. I had that "press tune" installed and my car was indeed faster than the OEM version and it was OBDII.

M6-Coupe · 02-09-2016, 10:14 AM

Dave, It's not impossible for many reasons... maybe 458 italia has a minor tune or race gas?
on the other hand especiale is just 200 lb lighter and has about 20-30 more power and basically at about 600 hp, it's a little tricky if driver does not have enough skill to control the car the way that a light car can put that power down correctly. meanwhile, how do you know if the driver of italia weighs just 160 lb while the especiale has a fat driver and a fat passenger for total of +400 lb to offset the weight and power difference?? ... BTW, I weigh 200 lb ... just saying

LOL

wujekwaldus · 02-09-2016, 12:29 PM

Chris Harris wrote an article about Ferrari long time ago, I think it may be connected

http://jalopnik.com/5760248/how-ferrari-spins

clar · 02-09-2016, 05:51 PM

That can't be real. Speciale has more down force, so the extra horses are likely negated to some extent. No way a stock Italia pulls on the Speciale.

Vic55 · 02-09-2016, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by clar

That can't be real. Speciale has more down force, so the extra horses are likely negated to some extent. No way a stock Italia pulls on the Speciale.

I concur having owned a slightly modded 458 and driven a Speciale. I saw this vid a while back; its suspect as to whats in the 458. Peak hp gives a slight advantage to the Speciale along with weight but I also think the 4k to 8k rpm range has a bigger gap in gains for the S.

clar · 02-09-2016, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Vic55

I concur having owned a slightly modded 458 and driven a Speciale. I saw this vid a while back; its suspect as to whats in the 458. Peak hp gives a slight advantage to the Speciale along with weight but I also think the 4k to 8k rpm range has a bigger gap in gains for the S.

Ah nice, Vic. You drove the Speciale. Did u like the drive?

Vic55 · 02-09-2016, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by clar

Ah nice, Vic. You drove the Speciale. Did u like the drive?

Yes, the drive very much so (it was a while back) and I would love to own one and mod the exhaust. The car is so light feeling and the steering and throttle/engine response amazing. I did feel more comfortable pushing the car than I did with my 458.

I did agree with you-- that the sound is lighter than I expected but then I had a catless Capristo on my 458 which was almost obnoxious (in a good way).

clar · 02-09-2016, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Vic55

Yes, the drive very much so (it was a while back) and I would love to own one and mod the exhaust. The car is so light feeling and the steering and throttle/engine response amazing. I did feel more comfortable pushing the car than I did with my 458.

I did agree with you-- that the sound is lighter than I expected but then I had a catless Capristo on my 458 which was almost obnoxious (in a good way).

Spot on! U guys have it good there being able to mod the exhaust so freely. I have heard a catless V8 Ferrari before and it was a riot. Too much trouble to do that here with the dealer breathing down your neck and the bi-yearly inspection. The Huracan sounds a lot better stock!

URBAN LEGEND · 02-10-2016, 09:17 PM

Yellow car was in dyno mode. True.

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