My first Lambo- The White Bull aka Huracan-** Vorsteiner Wing added pics page 5!**

[PoorLurker]

Originally Posted by FLOMACKS

Do you still have the GT3?

Was going to ask the same thing. If Vic55 sold it, what is a final impression.

Beautiful car!

[M6-Coupe]

Vic55 , I visited Lamborghini Newport today and had chance to test drive both McLaren 650s and Huracan back to back... both cars were amazing. 650s was more dynamic with more body roll (probably because of RWD) while Huracan was more stiff and glued to the asphalt at corners while both cars had the same tire (Pirelli 305)... and yes I almost raped both cars
Well, one thing I figured out is that M DCT is one of the best Dual Clutch and most fun transmission in the market. Both cars were fantastic but in term of transmission, non of them had the rear kicking (maybe that's because of torque or rear weight distribution) and the fast shifting of M DCT....
Anyways, I think DCT on Huracan is better (faster) than SSG on McLaren.

Another thing got my attention was the gear shifting on Huracan. I drove the Huracan in both Sport and Corsa (track) mode with manual shifting, but whenever the RPM was reaching the redline, car upshifted the gear by herself and had no cutoff like M5/M6 in manual mode. Am I missing something or you can confirm this is the transmission setup on yours too?

Also how do you compare the Getrag DCT on your AMG GTS with DCT on your Huracan?

Thanks in advance

[clar]

Agree that M-DCT is among the best in the business. For a long time, they had the best in the business. These days, it's rather pointless trying to compare them as they are all so well sorted. I hardly notice any difference when I drove the Speciale compared to the E92 M3 in terms of speed of shifting despite the former boasting about super fast shift times. The difference is so negligible one won't notice it unless u read about the numbers beforehand. I am quite certain all these newer DCTs have nothing in between them. The only area of difference I notice, is the smoothness when in auto mode attributed to the gearbox software. I felt the E92 M3's auto mode in the most aggressive D5 (or something) was perfection. I mostly drove it in that mode in those days.

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

Vic55 , I visited Lamborghini Newport today and had chance to test drive both McLaren 650s and Huracan back to back... both cars were amazing. 650s was more dynamic with more body roll (probably because of RWD) while Huracan was more stiff and glued to the asphalt at corners while both cars had the same tire (Pirelli 305)... and yes I almost raped both cars
Well, one thing I figured out is that M DCT is one of the best Dual Clutch and most fun transmission in the market. Both cars were fantastic but in term of transmission, non of them had the rear kicking (maybe that's because of torque or rear weight distribution) and the fast shifting of M DCT....
Anyways, I think DCT on Huracan is better (faster) than SSG on McLaren.

Another thing got my attention was the gear shifting on Huracan. I drove the Huracan in both Sport and Corsa (track) mode with manual shifting, but whenever the RPM was reaching the redline, car upshifted the gear by herself and had no cutoff like M5/M6 in manual mode. Am I missing something or you can confirm this is the transmission setup on yours too?

Also how do you compare the Getrag DCT on your AMG GTS with DCT on your Huracan?

Thanks in advance

[Hoopumpers]

650S with body roll? Perhaps you didn't press active button and try suspension in track mode. In normal mode perhaps (as designed). Or maybe something was off with tire pressures (have seen that at dealers before).

Track suspension on the mclaren is one of the stiffest stock road car setups out there. I've tracked both Mac and lambo. Was extremely impressed with the Huracan on the circuit. Both amazing cars.

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by Hoopumpers

650S with body roll? Perhaps you didn't press active button and try suspension in track mode. In normal mode perhaps (as designed). Or maybe something was off with tire pressures (have seen that at dealers before).

Track suspension on the mclaren is one of the stiffest stock road car setups out there. I've tracked both Mac and lambo. Was extremely impressed with the Huracan on the circuit. Both amazing cars.

Yeah I didn't press that button. The SA explained about Active mode and I wanted to know how the car is without that.
I also drove the car in track mode too (in half way of test drive).
The only thing I didn't try was launch control and she explained it's not allowed in first 600 miles, but she didn't know if it's deactivated (like break-in service) or is not allowed to be used. anyways car was almost brand new and I had no intention to use launch control.

[Hoopumpers]

If you don't press active, the knobs for suspension and shifting stay in grocery getter mode - regardless what you turn them to. Without active on the car is kinda lame. Never run it that way unless I am cruising through the neighborhood at 25mph.

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

Vic55 , I visited Lamborghini Newport today and had chance to test drive both McLaren 650s and Huracan back to back... both cars were amazing. 650s was more dynamic with more body roll (probably because of RWD) while Huracan was more stiff and glued to the asphalt at corners while both cars had the same tire (Pirelli 305)... and yes I almost raped both cars
Well, one thing I figured out is that M DCT is one of the best Dual Clutch and most fun transmission in the market. Both cars were fantastic but in term of transmission, non of them had the rear kicking (maybe that's because of torque or rear weight distribution) and the fast shifting of M DCT....
Anyways, I think DCT on Huracan is better (faster) than SSG on McLaren.

Another thing got my attention was the gear shifting on Huracan. I drove the Huracan in both Sport and Corsa (track) mode with manual shifting, but whenever the RPM was reaching the redline, car upshifted the gear by herself and had no cutoff like M5/M6 in manual mode. Am I missing something or you can confirm this is the transmission setup on yours too?

Also how do you compare the Getrag DCT on your AMG GTS with DCT on your Huracan?

Thanks in advance

hey bud glad you got a chance to drive them and in the proper modes (Huracan for sure LOL). So if you are Sport you can either have it in manual or Auto (denoted by the A on the screen). If you are in Sport and manual then you control the shifts but it will shift at redline if you are "sleeping". In Sport Auto mode its all based on your throttle presses; the harder the longer it stays in gear until upshift. Ill tell you that Sport Auto is tremendous for perfect shifts and driving in heavier traffic.

Now in Corsa its only manual and you don't get the auto up shift at redline; you have to do it or it will bounce.

Both trannys are very good- the GTS has those quick fires up like the H car but I do think the ECU in the H is better for down shifting. It just feels a slight touch better with the paddles and the response. But both cars are amazing with their trannys. You really need to drive the GTS too.

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by Hoopumpers

If you don't press active, the knobs for suspension and shifting stay in grocery getter mode - regardless what you turn them to. Without active on the car is kinda lame. Never run it that way unless I am cruising through the neighborhood at 25mph.

Originally Posted by Vic55

hey bud glad you got a chance to drive them and in the proper modes (Huracan for sure LOL). So if you are Sport you can either have it in manual or Auto (denoted by the A on the screen). If you are in Sport and manual then you control the shifts but it will shift at redline if you are "sleeping". In Sport Auto mode its all based on your throttle presses; the harder the longer it stays in gear until upshift. Ill tell you that Sport Auto is tremendous for perfect shifts and driving in heavier traffic.

Now in Corsa its only manual and you don't get the auto up shift at redline; you have to do it or it will bounce.

Both trannys are very good- the GTS has those quick fires up like the H car but I do think the ECU in the H is better for down shifting. It just feels a slight touch better with the paddles and the response. But both cars are amazing with their trannys. You really need to drive the GTS too.

Guys, thanks a lot for great explanations. Looks like I have to go and test drive both again, but this time in proper modes ... it was sales person's fault was not familiar with cars to explain everything correctly...
And Vic yes... I need to drive the GTS too. Next stop

[Hoopumpers]

Gotta love these venues hawking $300k cars, with literally only 3 current models available between both manufacturers at the dealer, and the sales folks don't care to learn how the cars function

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by Hoopumpers

Gotta love these venues hawking $300k cars, with literally only 3 current models available between both manufacturers at the dealer, and the sales folks don't care to learn how the cars function

Well, I'm not blaming them since the majority of people who get these cars have no intention to know the actual performance. They just want to show them off or make them a garage queen... There are only handful people are looking for the limits and track stuff or some fantastic features designed specifically for performance such as aero brake on 650s
On the other hand there is no competitor for them out there except 458 to be tagged at that price point territory...

Anyways, Vic sorry for

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

Well, I'm not blaming them since the majority of people who get these cars have no intention to know the actual performance. They just want to show them off or make them a garage queen... There are only handful people are looking for the limits and track stuff or some fantastic features designed specifically for performance such as aero brake on 650s
On the other hand there is no competitor for them out there except 458 to be tagged at that price point territory...

Anyways, Vic sorry for

Its all good, its about the Huracan

[thebishman]

Originally Posted by Hoopumpers

Gotta love these venues hawking $300k cars, with literally only 3 current models available between both manufacturers at the dealer, and the sales folks don't care to learn how the cars function

I agree with you 100%.

I mean how difficult is it to learn everything about a vehicle when you have such a limited product line? I could understand, (maybe) at a large dealership selling a couple of different manufacturers products with loads of variations, that you might not remember/know every last little detail. But to not know how to really 'sell' a car so incredible as the Huracan; 650S, etc is pathetic IMHO.

Prospective owners want to know everything about how the car functions, even if all they're ever going to do is brag to their friends about it.

Bish

[Vic55]

Added this Vorsteiner Rear Wing... it compliments the rear and makes it more aggressive IMHO. Again many many many thanks to the winners at Supremepower in Placentia, CA. If you need parts, tires, aesthetics hit them up.










This was during the install- note how Vorsteiner has the wing set up inverted. It actually is pretty cool:

[SocalBM]

I don't like white on cars, but Lambo really does a great job with the color. It's got a lot more depth to it that other brands; looks great.

[thebishman]

Another incredibly tasteful addition to an already gorgeous car. Nice job, Vic!
Bish

[Bimmer6]

Vic always well done your cars are very tasteful, and hot! You have the knack to build some very good looking automobiles.

[RPiM5]

I like the wing Vic. Subtle and not too crazy.

[PoorLurker]

Originally Posted by RPiM5

I like the wing Vic. Subtle and not too crazy.

funny to think about subtlety while involving a Huracan.

Car does look amazing.

[Used2be]

Originally Posted by Vic55

Added this Vorsteiner Rear Wing... it compliments the rear and makes it more aggressive IMHO.

This was during the install- note how Vorsteiner has the wing set up inverted. It actually is pretty cool

Do you think the wing is developed with wind tunnel time? Perhaps the inversion catches air off the sloped side better?

I like all of your current stable, but the Lambo is by far the most gnarly, aggressive of the bunch, even in white!

[Schnell_1]

The Gallardos (Superleggeras) and R8's (GT's and Competitions) both look more clean, balanced, and aggressive with wings IMO. So does this. Nice one, Vic.

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by Schnell_1

The Gallardos (Superleggeras) and R8's (GT's and Competitions) both look more clean, balanced, and aggressive with wings IMO. So does this. Nice one, Vic.

Thanks guys

Yeah the wing breaks up the boring rear (its kinda of a box)

[sdf10m5]

Very nice. Congrats !