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      11-06-2016, 06:23 PM   #45
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Looks good and really like the interior but I've never seen myself in a Mercedes for some reason. I can't explain it there have been iterations I've liked but never seriously considered buying one. :
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      11-16-2016, 04:01 PM   #46
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I saw a new E300 on the street the other week and even looking directly at it, my eyes kept telling me that it was a C-Class. I don't mind that Mercedes is making all their designs look similar it's just confusing to me when I actually see them on the street. I've even mistaken an S-Class for a C-Class before. But then again maybe Mercedes wants us to be confused.
This happens to me with the F-series 3, 5 and 7 as well.
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For Canada, the ordering guide was released by MB Canada on Dec 6, 2016, but the price has not yet been released until mid Spring 2017.

I have just submitted my order this past weekend for the wagon with June production and delivery around early to mid Sep.
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I could hardly stay awake reading that. I hate Benz and even if they made it with 1000hp is miss it
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      12-29-2016, 08:26 AM   #49
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I fully expect the upcoming F90 M5 to open a new ass for the E63 in terms of performance, dynamics, and technology.
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      12-29-2016, 07:59 PM   #50
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so since price hasn't been released, but you already put an order in... how does that work?
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      12-29-2016, 09:26 PM   #51
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I fully expect the upcoming F90 M5 to open a new ass for the E63 in terms of performance, dynamics, and technology.
I hope BMW can work on the exhaust sound as well.

Stock BMW exhaust does not seem as exciting compared to AMG stock exhaust.
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      12-30-2016, 07:24 AM   #52
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I hope BMW can work on the exhaust sound as well.

Stock BMW exhaust does not seem as exciting compared to AMG stock exhaust.
Prob not gonna happen cos they believe in their solution to the sound problem, which is that garbage Active Sound. Anyway, for an insulated car like the M5, sound coming out from the exhaust is not the most important thing for me. The reviews on the G30 5-series point to a much quieter car, which means u are not gonna hear much of the exhaust, however good it might sound.
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I fully expect the upcoming F90 M5 to open a new ass for the E63 in terms of performance, dynamics, and technology.
Hopefully. Not sure about power but the weight should be definitely a big advantage... BTW I saw this picture on other thread about the structure of G30 5 Series... reminded me people believed it's supposed to be carbon core, the same as 7 series... There is no Carbon Core or other piece of CF.
I believe F90 M5 will have at least CF roof.

http://g30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1337272
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Not likely to be a big advantage in weight. I would be happy with a 200 lbs advantage. Their most profitable model and they skimp on technology. BMW is really cheap.
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Not likely to be a big advantage in weight. I would be happy with a 200 lbs advantage. Their most profitable model and they skimp on technology. BMW is really cheap.
Well not really. My M6 with Full Merino Leather and that awesome alcantara / gray wood accent and trim beside EXE /Lighting package and 20" rims was not cheap at all. M4 has plastic dash but overall the leather sport seat and CF accent and CP make it nice and not cheap anyways
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so since price hasn't been released, but you already put an order in... how does that work?
Deposit given now. Pricing should be available in around late April, I will have enough time to review my order (based on my budget) before the options are locked in around May.
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so since price hasn't been released, but you already put an order in... how does that work?
Deposit given now. Pricing should be available in around late April, I will have enough time to review my order (based on my budget) before the options are locked in around May.
I did this before as well for my F10 M5...placed my deposit in mid-2011 and waited for the pricing information to be released. They'd be silly not to take your money ($ now is better than $ later)...
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Not likely to be a big advantage in weight. I would be happy with a 200 lbs advantage. Their most profitable model and they skimp on technology. BMW is really cheap.
How do you know it's bmws most profitable model? Did you mean the highest priced model?
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How do you know it's bmws most profitable model? Did you mean the highest priced model?
Read that somewhere before. You can google it. It's being talked about in many motoring articles. Here's one:

https://www.motoringresearch.com/car...hing-need-know
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How do you know it's bmws most profitable model? Did you mean the highest priced model?
Read that somewhere before. You can google it. It's being talked about in many motoring articles. Here's one:

https://www.motoringresearch.com/car...hing-need-know
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I have wet dreams about this new AMG. Imagine what this beast would sound like with catless downpipes! I'm sold on buying a vehicle in this category but I have to wait on the new F90 to decide. It's still far away from a debut and again I'd have to wait maybe 2.5 years for the comp pack while the E63s is around the corner.
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By then, e63 could be months to a year or so away from face lift version .. Imagine an e63 s "r" or "black series" 😄
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I have wet dreams about this new AMG. Imagine what this beast would sound like with catless downpipes! I'm sold on buying a vehicle in this category but I have to wait on the new F90 to decide. It's still far away from a debut and again I'd have to wait maybe 2.5 years for the comp pack while the E63s is around the corner.
The F90 is suppose to be north of 700hp while the E63 is like 603hp or something plus the F90 has push button RWD while the AMG has drift mode. IMO I'd hold out for the new M5.
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I have wet dreams about this new AMG. Imagine what this beast would sound like with catless downpipes! I'm sold on buying a vehicle in this category but I have to wait on the new F90 to decide. It's still far away from a debut and again I'd have to wait maybe 2.5 years for the comp pack while the E63s is around the corner.
The F90 is suppose to be north of 700hp while the E63 is like 603hp or something plus the F90 has push button RWD while the AMG has drift mode. IMO I'd hold out for the new M5.
I hope you are right about the power output but I just don't see this being true.

If so, it's a game changer.
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M5 700hp+ ? Can you provide reference link ?

I have only seen mentioning of around low 600hp for it while the next rs6/7 is targeted with 650hp at most. Even the new panny turbo s hybrid is projected just shy of 700hp
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M5 700hp+ ? Can you provide reference link ?

I have only seen mentioning of around low 600hp for it while the next rs6/7 is targeted with 650hp at most. Even the new panny turbo s hybrid is projected just shy of 700hp
No this is not true information. BMW has not designed any new engine yet. The next M5/M6 are going to have the same S63 with different map to generate 600 HP. The same as 30 Jahre
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