How To Launch M5/M6 for Dummies "How To"

[Mcc420]

So I guess with stock axles mt's are not a good idea?

[ARC550]

Originally Posted by Mcc420

So I guess with stock axles mt's are not a good idea?

Absolutely upgrade axles. This is a must. The stock will snap!!!!

[ARC550]

Big Powa!

[epiphanyray]

ARC550 I am here to learn, and you seem to be well versed in burnouts, warming up tires, 0-60 + 1/4 Mile times... I come from an E39 M5, which i still have, and If I want to play with the rear tires I do so just like any other Manual stick shift car. REV up high, release clutch, and hold on. Forgive my ignorance but I just got this F10 M5 about a Month or so ago. I am still learning this piece of machinery with the turbos, and so forth.

I understand You mention that after putting the car in M1 or 2, and traction control completely off, I can simply mash the gas and the car breaks traction pretty easily. However, I find that it does move forward quite a bit by just mashing the gas pedal. Have not really tried it. I guess my question is, is it possible to rev high, and jump into first gear with a DCT gearbox? Take a look at this video. How do I do this (unless the cars in the video are Manual stick shifts).

How is he making the rear tires spin at a near stand still? Is he lightly braking with maybe his left foot and mashing the gas with his right foot? Slowly release left foot brake to take off?

Here is another example - I am checking his brake lights, and see he does press brake.

I was sure that when the brake pedal is pressed, all four brakes across all wheels "BRAKE." I am assuming that the rears don't brake as hard when pedal is pressed therefore the power being delivered to the rear wheels is greater than Brake Pressure HENCE BURNOUT?

Here is another. How is he revving the engine unless this was a stick shift? Is he in neutral?

A little guidance pls.

Like I said, i am only here to learn.

[ARC550]

Originally Posted by epiphanyray

ARC550 I am here to learn, and you seem to be well versed in burnouts, warming up tires, 0-60 + 1/4 Mile times... I come from an E39 M5, which i still have, and If I want to play with the rear tires I do so just like any other Manual stick shift car. REV up high, release clutch, and hold on. Forgive my ignorance but I just got this F10 M5 about a Month or so ago. I am still learning this piece of machinery with the turbos, and so forth.

I understand You mention that after putting the car in M1 or 2, and traction control completely off, I can simply mash the gas and the car breaks traction pretty easily. However, I find that it does move forward quite a bit by just mashing the gas pedal. Have not really tried it. I guess my question is, is it possible to rev high, and jump into first gear with a DCT gearbox? Take a look at this video. How do I do this (unless the cars in the video are Manual stick shifts).

How is he making the rear tires spin at a near stand still? Is he lightly braking with maybe his left foot and mashing the gas with his right foot? Slowly release left foot brake to take off?

Here is another example - I am checking his brake lights, and see he does press brake.

I was sure that when the brake pedal is pressed, all four brakes across all wheels "BRAKE." I am assuming that the rears don't brake as hard when pedal is pressed therefore the power being delivered to the rear wheels is greater than Brake Pressure HENCE BURNOUT?

Here is another. How is he revving the engine unless this was a stick shift? Is he in neutral?

A little guidance pls.

Like I said, i am only here to learn.

I know those guys lol

The key is you must shift immediately once you start spinning.
Trust me once you get it it's allot of fun.
You will spin for 3-6 sec
Trust me it works lol

[epiphanyray]

Originally Posted by ARC550

I know those guys lol

The key is you must shift immediately once you start spinning.
Trust me once you get it it's allot of fun.
You will spin for 3-6 sec
Trust me it works lol

Im sure it is! But i can do it without a prob in my e39. How do i do it in a dct car? Is it mas the pedal and lightly use brake to keep car in place?

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by epiphanyray

Im sure it is! But i can do it without a prob in my e39. How do i do it in a dct car? Is it mas the pedal and lightly use brake to keep car in place?

DSC OFF , D3 , and mash the gas....
Car will do burnout for you ; with Sport+ (throttle) it's more fun

[Northern X5M]

Originally Posted by epiphanyray

ARC550

How is he making the rear tires spin at a near stand still? Is he lightly braking with maybe his left foot and mashing the gas with his right foot? Slowly release left foot brake to take off?


I was sure that when the brake pedal is pressed, all four brakes across all wheels "BRAKE." I am assuming that the rears don't brake as hard when pedal is pressed therefore the power being delivered to the rear wheels is greater than Brake Pressure HENCE BURNOUT?

Yes, you can do a brake stand by lightly feathering the brakes. At a certain point too much brake with cause the throttle to cut out. Once you find the sweet spot, you can do a nice roasty burn out.

[wujekwaldus]

How do I launch:
1st gear, MDM mode, suspension: comfort, gear change: s2. everything else: sport+
accelerate a little bit on 1st gear and rapid change into 2nd gear with full throttle
example video:

by this every time a can achieve 0-100km/h below 4.0s (3.6s best)

[Bowser330]

Originally Posted by wujekwaldus

How do I launch:
1st gear, MDM mode, suspension: comfort, gear change: s2. everything else: sport+
accelerate a little bit on 1st gear and rapid change into 2nd gear with full throttle
example video:

by this every time a can achieve 0-100km/h below 4.0s (3.6s best)

What does "accelerate a little bit" mean? Half throttle? 3/4 throttle?

[DHUBM5]

Originally Posted by ARC550

How to Launch My M5/M6 at the Drag Strip(DCT)

These cars are notorious for wheel spin and and going sideways from really any speed under 40mph, from a dig near impossible for traction at full throttle stock or modded.

I am asked regularly:
- how do you get your 1/4 times?
- how do you launch?
- how do you burn out enough to get tires warm at track?
- etc etc...

The M5/6 are under rated from factory. Their are no "factory freaks" the cars are all built by machine and made the same way. The difference would be max 10-20whp and that is all depending on location, temp, quality of gas and Dyno settings. These cars will do mid 11s at 12X+ all day at the track Bone stock. I know because I have tested it with Drag tires on a bone stock car (11..5 @123mph)


** FULL traction must be disengaged.

Step 1: Tires- if you are not on Drag tires or semi Drag tires (I.E.: R888, Micky Thompson ET Streets) then this will not really help you.

Step 2: Tire Pressure- I have noticed the best settings that work for me for the following tires at the Drag strip and street. (Results may very on location and track prep)

- R888
* Drag strip: 23-25PSI
* Street- 27-28PSI

-ET Streets
* Drag strip: 22-25 PSI (Depending on power of car, more power leans you closer to the 22psi)
* Street- 28psi (these tires suck on street so don't recommend driving them on street)

For those that drive Super sports daily I highly recommend 31-32Psi in rear for daily driving. Improves grip greatly vs the recommended settings of 35-36psi.

Step 3: Burn Out in Box- once you get to the Burnout Box and are at a complete standstill you will MASH the gas pedal like a press on light switch(aggressive stomp on gas) and keep foot all the way down. The car will start to spin, try to keep wheel aligned. The cars revs will spike and as soon as they approach redline shift into 2nd and as soon as they approach redline shift into 3rd and ride that spin out. This will give you a 4-6 sec burn out and will keep you as still as you possible can lol. The tires will be nice and toasty!

Step 4: Launch: I have experimented and have found that Launch control simply does not work. The best technique for launching these cars is simple. Once the cars tires are nice and toasty and you are waiting for the green To drop you simply keep foot on the break so car does not move. Right before the light drops to green remove foot off the break and get ready to stomp that Gas pedal exactly like you would if you ready to do a burn out. The car will JUMP! Don't be scared, it will slingshot and just go!! You will feel like you have been kicked in the ass by a steam train. The revs will go very fast and you will need to be vary wary of shift points etc.

Step 4: How do you get good times?:
You will need to know when and how to shift the car.

Stock car- 6.8k RPM Shift. The car has so much torque and runs out of steam up top their is no sense in blowing hot air. Vbox tested this is best shift point.

Modified car(FBO Tune)- 6.4k RPM SHIFT. The car as anyone has seen once modified dives after 6.3-6.5k RPM. The car is Faster by .1-.3 by shifting at these points vs closer to redline. Vbox and track proven.


Along with all of this allot of variables to consider:
- Quality of gas
- temps
- road surface
- track prep
- etc..
-
good luck and don't break anything!

Awesome write up! I just picked up a 2014 comp package M5 so I will have to try this launch technique!

[ARC550]

Originally Posted by DHUBM5

Awesome write up! I just picked up a 2014 comp package M5 so I will have to try this launch technique!

Good Luck brother!!! Make sure tires are Hot and stick! And Not pirelli or Michilin lol

[M5Rlz]

You will still never overcome how bad the DCT/BMW mapping for these trans' at launches are until someone makes a true TCM tune.

TPG said it best here over on F80post:

Originally Posted by TPG Tuning

We have wheels and tires available for the car , as seen in the videos linked on the original post we are running a hoosier slick. The biggest issue is the ability to launch the car. Factory launch control isn't capable of launching the car hard enough with slicks on it to cut a good short time. There are a few methods we have been trying to launch the car and the best 60' we were able to cut is a 1.59, usually a 1.6 is the consistent time for us.

The biggest hindrance is the transmission and the ability to control and manipulate it. Someone who actually cracks the trans and develops a real flash for it would make big bucks and put these cars on a whole new level. However every " trans flash" out there is just a basic GTS flash over that people are relabeling.

I'm sure it will be possible to run 9's on a stock motor one day. However I don't understand the risk involved, especially once we broke a rod and realized how expensive and costly it is to replace one of these motors. In hindsight building the motor would have saved about 15-20,000 over letting it break first. The cost is well worth it up front.

[wanesso]

Launching the M5 will be ever so much easier in the AWD mode.....will give the GTR a bit of competition.....

[Mcc420]

You were right on the tires suck and right about the axles also lol. I managed to do a 10.8@132 with mt street. But the next run cost me a axle an a towing ��

[ARC550]

Originally Posted by Mcc420

You were right on the tires suck and right about the axles also lol. I managed to do a 10.8@132 with mt street. But the next run cost me a axle an a towing ��

Great time!!!! Impressive! Slip? What mods??!

Oh yea ahhahah the axles where inevitable ahahah lucky it was not trans or rear diff ahahahaha I broke it all!!! Ahhaha

[Mcc420]

Hcp tune, map sensors, and dp's. I also had a splash of ms109.

[Mcc420]

Sorry had to resize the picture.

[ARC550]

Originally Posted by Mcc420

Sorry had to resize the picture.

Impressive!!!!!!


Also what boost you running?
How did you launch car? Burnout process etc? (Was it like above or did you have own technique?)

[Mcc420]

I used your technique thanks . I'm running 24psi of boost. I also recently won fastest German car at a 1/2ml event with 161mph from a stand still. I was 2nd overall for the event.

[ARC550]

Originally Posted by Mcc420

I used your technique thanks . I'm running 24psi of boost. I also recently won fastest German car at a 1/2ml event with 161mph from a stand still. I was 2nd overall for the event.

That explains the 60ft lol
How awesome does that launch feel ?

Impressive! 24psi! Nice is that your daily map? What fuel do you run in your car daily?

[Mcc420]

I usually run 94. This time I had 1/2 of 94 and I put in a full can of ms109. At first I was like wholly crap it stuck. I was expecting it lol.