Drag Race Video: F10 M5 vs Panamera S vs E63 vs XFR

dlbrooks18 · 12-06-2011, 07:28 PM

Would have liked to see the Panamera Turbo in this competition..

UsualSuspect · 12-06-2011, 07:28 PM

Here's the video, because it wasn't working for me on EVO's site:
F10 BMW M5 vs Porsche Panamera S vs Mercedes E63 AMG vs Jaguar XFR drag race

BadassBeamer · 12-06-2011, 07:36 PM

idk how accurate that is.. it said the E63 is 0-60 in 4.9. That's definitely not right, especially with the performance package. Not taking anything away from the M5 but i think the E63 would be a lot closer or even beat..

ORIGIN M. · 12-06-2011, 07:37 PM

Wow, good to know...

That's ridiculously quick.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BForbes

Its more like 2.9seconds.

edergt7 · 12-06-2011, 08:28 PM

Siiiicckkk!!

Eugene-TAIWAN · 12-06-2011, 08:40 PM

where is the result with the Panamera Turbo?

Taipei-TT · 12-06-2011, 08:41 PM

Impressive result for the M5 against the E63...I would have thought a drag race to be the E63's forte over the M5.

Porsche plays in another league however. They make the S and non-S cars for aspirational buyers, but if you really want to own a Porsche with class leading performance, you have to step up to the bigs leagues with the Turbo models. (that is not to say that 'regular' Porsches are not great...they are great...but there are great cars from BMW and MB etc that can top these cars.) For those people lucky enough that the extra $100K does not matter, they enjoy a very exclusive, very fast car, in the turbo model. To me, this is analogous to the decision to buy an STI versus a 335. The performance of the two cars on the street is really comparable. But the quality and feel of the 335 is incomparable to the STI. But in the market I live in, the 335 comes in at $40 000USD more than an STI. So which car is better? Depends on what league you play in.

At any rate, all the angst and anxiety of the BMW M fan-base can be set aside. M does not what they are doing...NA or forced induction. Now, how about some M brakes that last on a track?

Bimmerlover76 · 12-06-2011, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phish_100

The turbo is a massively different price range. The m5 easily wins this competition.

Agree with this and WolfBimmer's post too. Thus, Porsche should not have been included at all. If price is no object, compare based on HP/torque numbers. If performance isn't a priority, compare at a common price point.

d_dot · 12-06-2011, 08:59 PM

holy shit i need one now

Envyscorpio · 12-06-2011, 09:28 PM

Awsome test! This just proves power ain't everything

M5007 · 12-06-2011, 10:03 PM

I understand the argument on the price range. But not having the Porsche Turbo model is still not a fair comparison. I would like to see how the M5 would fair against the Turbo model.

Robert · 12-06-2011, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phish_100

The turbo is a massively different price range. The m5 easily wins this competition.

Money is no object in this line up

onefastdoc · 12-07-2011, 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -=Hot|Ice=-

Wrong again! The 2013 does it in 2.8 which is what Nissan says. :P

That's why I bought the GT-R! (I still loved my E90 M3 but got tired of getting smoked by other cars). The 2012 GT-R has been clocked at 2.85 seconds. I've been able to do 2.7 seconds in my 2012 with a tune. Really puts a grin on your face. I do think the M5 would make a better daily driver though. The ride in the GT-R is a bit rough.

ORIGIN M. · 12-07-2011, 01:26 AM

Fast as fuk...

The ride might be rough, but at least my wife can drive it...

Quote:

Originally Posted by onefastdoc

That's why I bought the GT-R! (I still loved my E90 M3 but got tired of getting smoked by other cars). The 2012 GT-R has been clocked at 2.85 seconds. I've been able to do 2.7 seconds in my 2012 with a tune. Really puts a grin on your face. I do think the M5 would make a better daily driver though. The ride in the GT-R is a bit rough.

-=Hot|Ice=- · 12-07-2011, 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onefastdoc

That's why I bought the GT-R! (I still loved my E90 M3 but got tired of getting smoked by other cars). The 2012 GT-R has been clocked at 2.85 seconds. I've been able to do 2.7 seconds in my 2012 with a tune. Really puts a grin on your face. I do think the M5 would make a better daily driver though. The ride in the GT-R is a bit rough.

Why can't the GT-R be 80k again?

they are going for as much as 110k over here!

m3_p0wer · 12-07-2011, 04:00 AM

Even a panamera turbo is not fair they should put Panamera turbo S not panamera S !! i bet the m5 will struggle against the turbo S with launch control

phish_100 · 12-07-2011, 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M-Power111

Quote:

Originally Posted by Questforpower

Very nice win by the M5 but let's remember the Porsche only lost because of its price and it was the only NA contender in this race.

A Panamera Turbo would have mowed this competition; a Turbo S would have slaughtered it.

yeah but its ugly.

And also that's not true. The m5 would murder turbo s too

EdM5 · 12-07-2011, 07:27 AM

Nice.
I'm a little bit biased

but I do think the M5 is also the best looking.

v1p3r · 12-07-2011, 08:43 AM

Thanks for posting, great result!

Where is page 105 of the article? The part before the track test, continuing the ///M5 part of the review...

James T. Kirk · 12-07-2011, 09:21 AM

Congratulations to the M5 for placing first, but let's face it... The Panamera is clearly the superior car... at being UGLY!
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vladberca · 12-07-2011, 11:33 AM

From the performance point of view it would have been more interesting to see in action Panamera Turbo S and Jag XF-R...

KB7 · 12-07-2011, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadassBeamer

idk how accurate that is.. it said the E63 is 0-60 in 4.9. That's definitely not right, especially with the performance package. Not taking anything away from the M5 but i think the E63 would be a lot closer or even beat..

I agree. How is that possible with that much power and torque on tap? I am sure that once these cars get into actual enthusiasts hands and they are learned to be driven we will see different results. Not trying to take anything away from the M5 as it is no doubt a beast and I am a BMW driver

Great article OP and thanks for sharing.

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Taipei-TT Captain 25 Rep 642 Posts Drives: 2014 X3 2.0D Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Canadian in Taipei iTrader: (0)	Impressive result for the M5 against the E63...I would have thought a drag race to be the E63's forte over the M5. Porsche plays in another league however. They make the S and non-S cars for aspirational buyers, but if you really want to own a Porsche with class leading performance, you have to step up to the bigs leagues with the Turbo models. (that is not to say that 'regular' Porsches are not great...they are great...but there are great cars from BMW and MB etc that can top these cars.) For those people lucky enough that the extra $100K does not matter, they enjoy a very exclusive, very fast car, in the turbo model. To me, this is analogous to the decision to buy an STI versus a 335. The performance of the two cars on the street is really comparable. But the quality and feel of the 335 is incomparable to the STI. But in the market I live in, the 335 comes in at $40 000USD more than an STI. So which car is better? Depends on what league you play in. At any rate, all the angst and anxiety of the BMW M fan-base can be set aside. M does not what they are doing...NA or forced induction. Now, how about some M brakes that last on a track?
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