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      08-13-2019, 09:19 AM   #1
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Ruskies at it again

Appears that they haven’t changed their pathological lying ways, no surprise there. Chernobyl and now Severodvinsk. After a test missile accident which they initially claimed was nothing to worry about with no radiation involved. Now several days later lo and behold radiation levels have spiked to to very dangerous levels and the town of Severodvinsk is apparently being evacuated. Their constant denials in the face of scientific evidence would be laughable if it weren’t such a serious event with lives at stake.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-r...-idUSKCN1V30KH
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Appears that they havenít changed their pathological lying ways, no surprise there. Chernobyl and now Severodvinsk. After a test missile accident which they initially claimed was nothing to worry about with no radiation involved. Now several days later lo and behold radiation levels have spiked to to very dangerous levels and the town of Severodvinsk is apparently being evacuated. Their constant denials in the face of scientific evidence would be laughable if it werenít such a serious event with lives at stake.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-r...-idUSKCN1V30KH
Hmm...curious as to how this plays out. I've been to that area, although not to Severodvinsk proper. It's a large Oblast. I believe Severodvinsk has around a quarter million people, Archangel has around half a million.

That's a large area to evacuate.

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Appears that they haven’t changed their pathological lying ways, no surprise there. Chernobyl and now Severodvinsk. After a test missile accident which they initially claimed was nothing to worry about with no radiation involved. Now several days later lo and behold radiation levels have spiked to to very dangerous levels and the town of Severodvinsk is apparently being evacuated. Their constant denials in the face of scientific evidence would be laughable if it weren’t such a serious event with lives at stake.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-r...-idUSKCN1V30KH
Yep
Interesting article:

https://apple.news/A05RzB5lRS0ydkNuZ9pWAX

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/r...-beat-n1041721


https://www.1addicts.com/forums/show...473144&page=37
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No you dont understand the Russian mindset. In their eyes they are giving you their version of the truth and if you dont like it than tough shit because what are you going to do about it. That is literally their mindset.
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No you dont understand the Russian mindset. In their eyes they are giving you their version of the truth and if you dont like it than tough shit because what are you going to do about it. That is literally their mindset.
Agreed. I know them pretty well from my Cold War days. They’re a sneaky, slimy bunch but Geiger counters, dosimeters and irradiated dead people don’t lie.
I’m waiting for the Russian defender here to post up and spew a long ass list of BS Pravda propaganda to diminish what has happened.
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Agreed. I know them pretty well from my Cold War days. Theyíre a sneaky, slimy bunch but Geiger counters, dosimeters and irradiated dead people donít lie.
Iím waiting for the Russian defender here to post up and spew a long ass list of BS Prada propaganda to diminish what has happened.
Ivan or GeorgeA? That sounds like GeorgeA.
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Agreed. I know them pretty well from my Cold War days. Theyíre a sneaky, slimy bunch but Geiger counters, dosimeters and irradiated dead people donít lie.
Iím waiting for the Russian defender here to post up and spew a long ass list of BS Prada propaganda to diminish what has happened.
There actually is someone on this board doing this? I guess I am naÔve... I treat the Russians as I treat venomous snakes... I do not trust any and keep away from them.
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There actually is someone on this board doing this? I guess I am naÔve... I treat the Russians as I treat venomous snakes... I do not trust any and keep away from them.
I hope you are referring to the Russian Government, and not actual Russian citizens with your post? Because, I know many Russians, and the vast bulk of them are good people.

Now, government officials on the other hand....

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So they're now putting mini nuclear reactors into cruise missiles? Crazy stuff.
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So they're now putting mini nuclear reactors into cruise missiles? Crazy stuff.
Not unprecedented. We were actually working on a nuclear rocket powered munitions delivery system in the 60's. It was designed to be launched and deploy its munitions, either nuclear or conventional at predetermined spots globally. Since it was nuclear powered it could stay up indefinitely. It was about the size of a large locomotive.

Development was stopped in the late 60s. It seems that they are just catching up!!
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But honestly if it went up 4x or 20x. Its still irrelevant. Usual background is like .5mr/day so 20 times that is 10mr. Probably about the dose of a tooth xray.

But we should be used to lying..the mainstream news lies to us 24/7
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But honestly if it went up 4x or 20x. Its still irrelevant. Usual background is like .5mr/day so 20 times that is 10mr. Probably about the dose of a tooth xray.

But we should be used to lying..the mainstream news lies to us 24/7
18x at Severodvinsk and thatís some distance from the Ďaccidentí site and letís not forget that 18x is the number given by the Soviets and we all know how their math really sucks in calculating radiation, Chernobyl taught us that.
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Hmm...curious as to how this plays out. I've been to that area, although not to Severodvinsk proper. It's a large Oblast. I believe Severodvinsk has around a quarter million people, Archangel has around half a million.

That's a large area to evacuate.

Иногда мне кажется, что ты знаешь Россию лучше меня, дружище! ))
Yes, media lies to both us and you. And bloody Russian Government are hiding truth. Severodvinsk has already been completely evacuated, and Arkhangelsk has already been evacuated.
Moreover, my St. Petersburg (more than 5 million) is already preparing for the evacuation.

Friends, can you host me and my family at home? Help me escape from radiation!
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Иногда мне кажется, что ты знаешь Россию лучше меня, дружище! ))
Yes, media lies to both us and you. And bloody Russian Government are hiding truth. Severodvinsk has already been completely evacuated, and Arkhangelsk has already been evacuated.
Moreover, my St. Petersburg (more than 5 million) is already preparing for the evacuation.

Friends, can you host me and my family at home? Help me escape from radiation!
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Crazy that Severodvinsk is already evacuated. It isn't a small town, either. Then to hear St. Petersburg is considering it too?

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I hope you are referring to the Russian Government, and not actual Russian citizens with your post? Because, I know many Russians, and the vast bulk of them are good people.

Now, government officials on the other hand....

Correct... The only ones I ever met... Russian "diplomats" in Paris 10 years ago... Never met Russian citizens and never went to Russia so I definitely can not comment on them...
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Иван, Будем тусить в пятницу?

Crazy that Severodvinsk is already evacuated. It isn't a small town, either. Then to hear St. Petersburg is considering it too?

Офигеть!

Holly Shit... 6.2 Million people...
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Иногда мне кажется, что ты знаешь Россию лучше меня, дружище! ))
Yes, media lies to both us and you. And bloody Russian Government are hiding truth. Severodvinsk has already been completely evacuated, and Arkhangelsk has already been evacuated.
Moreover, my St. Petersburg (more than 5 million) is already preparing for the evacuation.

Friends, can you host me and my family at home? Help me escape from radiation!
Stay safe Ivan Ivanov. Grab some iodine pills and keep us posted on what's REALLY happening. Our news only reports on Epstein, Trump's latest tweet, and Kim Kardashian swimsuit pics.
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Jeeze. Literally from bad to worse...
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Correct... The only ones I ever met... Russian "diplomats" in Paris 10 years ago... Never met Russian citizens and never went to Russia so I definitely can not comment on them...
My experience with the Russians in this country is that they are hard working, hard living people who value their families. And so many of the ladies are beyond gorgeous but with an IDGAF streak you seldom find in American women. Just my .02. Weak/Girly men need not apply. They will become RW's bitches.

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18x at Severodvinsk and thatís some distance from the Ďaccidentí site and letís not forget that 18x is the number given by the Soviets and we all know how their math really sucks in calculating radiation, Chernobyl taught us that.
Hard to make accurate calculations when your meter is out of range.

I suspect it is much higher. 20x normal background is about what you see in a 70+ year old bomb crater at White Sands or the Nevada Test Site. 20x normal background would not warrant an evacuation unless there were harmful contamination posing hazards for whole body exposure (internal dose).

Can't really compare it to getting an x-ray either though people often do. The type of contamination spread is taken up and metabolized by the body which causes very specific localized tissue effects from beta and alpha emitters.
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