04-24-2012, 09:33 AM | #67 |
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Active Sound Design definitely adds a new overtone that's not there in the original engine sound. It's electronically generated.
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The engine not is the same, except it sounds louder with Active Sound on. So it's not like BMW is pipping a fake engine note into the interior. But if you guys think Active Sound is bad, you should say what Audi is up to with the R8 E-tron...
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But people that simply accept whatever BMW does, and make excuses for their mistakes are much, much worse than 'haters'. The reason is that car manufacturers depend on their enthusiast users for real feedback, and if everyone is a fanboy, there's no motivation for BMW to change something that isn't right. Honest, unbiased customer feedback is the most important input companies get to improve their product. Active Sound is a mistake, and is something that BMW did to solve a problem quickly and inexpensively. It's similar to the SMG transmissions - something that should be looked at as a 'stopgap' measure, but BMW can do much, much better. Porsche solved the problem by incorporating valves into the exhaust, and valved intake tubes routed into the passenger compartment. As an interim measure, BMW needs to make Active Sound configurable/disabled via Idrive. Then they need to focus on how to get the real sound of the engine/exhaust into the passenger cabin. Maybe electric cars with F1 soundtracks are the future of autos. But by then the car will be driving itself, so who cares. |
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04-24-2012, 12:11 PM | #72 |
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you can clearly hear the difference... One has a deeper and higher tone to it while the other sounds tiny.
I can't believe BMW is reverting to 'sound enhancing' techniques because the engine can provide enough acoustic satisfaction.
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04-24-2012, 01:14 PM | #74 |
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sounds bad without it, whiney and stuff. I like it with AS on.
Some bmw owners are way too anal about their cars.
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I agree though, those of us who enjoy the sounds of non-sound enhanced petrol cars should look at keeping a "classic" car around for the long haul. That goes for those of us who prefer to drive manual transmission cars as well. I last I read is that only 4% of new cars sold have a manual.
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After watching the clip, the AS doesn't sound that bad at all. It merely enhances the overall effect rather than making it sound like I'm playing Need for Speed.
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i think with and without AS the engine sounds the same but a bit higher/louder ... i think this might be an advantage for someone who drives with a high volume stereo ... he will always be aware of the engine sound and rpm regardless of the stereo volume whether high or low ( considering the AS gets louder as the stereo volume increases)
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"Hey let us eliminate the engine oil dip stick" They must have let him back in the room and he said ... "Let's make them all happy and pump the exhaust sound into the cabin" What a stupid idea ... what's next BMW ... don't tell me you will go back to a spare
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Here's what this is coming to:
Give it a voice. That’s what the Domino’s Pizza franchise in Amsterdam has done to one of its electric delivery scooters…literally. In a move that’s part protective and part promotional, the “Safe Sound’ scooter plays an amplified recording of someone making a fake engine noise to warn other motorists and pedestrians that it is approaching, with the words “Domino’s” and “Pizza” peppered in for a laugh. Pretty funny actually. |
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I'm sorry, active sound is plain old stupid. Can't wait till it malfunctions and it sounds like you are accelerating every time you change the radio station or when your phone rings.
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I have good, properly calibrated speaker system connected to my PC - I notice huge difference in that video with AS and with it disabled. Such a shame that BMW now thinks that "electronics will compensate for EVERYTHING!!!111". As for people who "don't care" - I guess you also don't care if your girlfriend or wife will use a stereo system in your bedroom for fake moaning/orgasm sounds instead of more "natural" way of producing them
Yes, yes, they should also add an option of purchasing an optional "ringtones", or "///M-tones", directly from a BMW so, for example, some people could load and use something like that instead of "stock" fake engine sound: Last edited by AlexK; 04-25-2012 at 12:36 AM.. |
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I heard less wind noise with system on, its more noticeable at the lower speed when it was off.
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I think its reasonable to be able to turn the active sound off. You can set just about everything else on the i-drive, why not that?
I'm not sure how I feel about it though... I do know that I hope the m3 does not need such a system. Quote:
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is it only me or what? I didn't notice that difference on the video on both cases? I think I need to hear it live on the real world
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