"Downgrading" from F10 M5 to F80 M3?

[MCarsFan]

Originally Posted by HXS

M5essex:

I forgot to explain why it looks 100 times better. To me, the comp rims look flat faced, even conVEX faced. The darker face would lessen that effect, making it look less flat/convex.

Plus, the darker face would match your tint and CF bits.

The wheels are amazing looking but I agree.. Blacked out carbon wheels plus black rear trunk spoiler and diffuser would look pretty bad ass.
Rolling shot of my Silverstone wheels powder coated carbon black.

[M5essex]

Originally Posted by Blackraven

Is it possible to get the M3/M4 Competition Package without those 666M wheels?

not as far as I am aware. you can always buy other wheels and sell the 666Ms

[M5essex]

Originally Posted by B-1Pilot

To answer your question, F*** no, those black wheels are ugly! Your car looks perfect. I really like those CP wheels as is, and of course with SS you can do no wrong in my opinion... what a fun color and one you really have to own to appreciate. I loved seeing the pics of your new car... made me all nostalgic-like....

thank you for your compliments and views on the wheels SS really is a great colour and changes with every angle.

I really am in two mind about it. sometimes I look at the photo-shopped darker wheels and think they look good and other times I like the contrasting diamond cut silver look.

the wheels are 'flat' but in fact when clean have the illusion of 3D effect and Convexed like HSX has mentioned.

I guess the issue is the spokes are so thin, so if I just got the inner parts powder coated black, the outer silver spokes would look very thin and spindly. but if I went all black, the 20" rims would get lost with the tyres and not stand out at all. I hate the contrasting GTS colour wheels too BTW...

do you think Gloss black wheels would go with all the other high gloss black parts the car has will go??

[MCarsFan]

Carbon Black. I think gloss black will be too shiny..

[HXS]

Originally Posted by MCarsFan

Carbon Black. I think gloss black will be too shiny..

I'd even consider dark gunmetal. Here's mine! Textured dark gunmetal.

[Grayblack]

Originally Posted by M5essex

would the wheels look better black/dark?

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/att...1&d=1459756730

Congrats on the new ride. I like the darker wheels. It compliments your carbon roof and lip/splitter.

Are your seats CP specific or did they change the seats for 2016 models?

[M5essex]

Originally Posted by Grayblack

Congrats on the new ride. I like the darker wheels. It compliments your carbon roof and lip/splitter.

Are your seats CP specific or did they change the seats for 2016 models?

Thanks mate the seat are new to CP models only...

[CARMASTERRACE]

I will be honest here in my comparison with the F80 M3 and F10 M5. I was going to purchase the M3 as it is a smaller, fitting more my type of dimension for a car, and better handling car. I got to drive the car in 2 instances and I did like it for handling, and acceleration. Nevertheless I only drove it at the limit in a track, and on a tight winding road for 5 minutes hauling as well. But in these conditions I loved it, the car is extremely tight and perfect.

When I drove this car on the real world, and started to pay attention to details, I absolutely hated it. The seats are uncomfortable, the car is much harsher than the M5, here in Brazil it has a lot less features too, and compared to my ex C63 P31 it did not feel any faster, in fact it felt way worse to drive, as the seat was horrible, steering feel was 0 and the suspension did not seem to function as well as the one in my ex C63 believe it or not. Maybe I was unlucky or whatever, but I would never, never, never downgrade from the M5 F10 to M3 F80. I loved my F10 so much I am changing mine 2013 with 20,000km to a 2014 with 2,000km, or a 0km 2015 car. The M5 is a much superior package, and it is slight disadvantage in limit handling gives hand to a much larger advantage in daily comfort.

[ShlemonboostedM]

M3 = more fun to drive ... M5 = better if you over 40 there you go !!

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by ShlemonboostedM

M3 = more fun to drive ... M5 = better if you over 40 there you go !!

Not if you drive the M5 right... its a blast it just needs that boost of sound to match its power.

Conversely the M4/M3, to me, sounds terrible and relatively tingy as its rev'd up.

So both need sound mods.

[M5essex]

Originally Posted by CARMASTERRACE

I will be honest here in my comparison with the F80 M3 and F10 M5. I was going to purchase the M3 as it is a smaller, fitting more my type of dimension for a car, and better handling car. I got to drive the car in 2 instances and I did like it for handling, and acceleration. Nevertheless I only drove it at the limit in a track, and on a tight winding road for 5 minutes hauling as well. But in these conditions I loved it, the car is extremely tight and perfect.

When I drove this car on the real world, and started to pay attention to details, I absolutely hated it. The seats are uncomfortable, the car is much harsher than the M5, here in Brazil it has a lot less features too, and compared to my ex C63 P31 it did not feel any faster, in fact it felt way worse to drive, as the seat was horrible, steering feel was 0 and the suspension did not seem to function as well as the one in my ex C63 believe it or not. Maybe I was unlucky or whatever, but I would never, never, never downgrade from the M5 F10 to M3 F80. I loved my F10 so much I am changing mine 2013 with 20,000km to a 2014 with 2,000km, or a 0km 2015 car. The M5 is a much superior package, and it is slight disadvantage in limit handling gives hand to a much larger advantage in daily comfort.

I agree with you on most of your points. the M3/4 is no match for the M5/6 mid range power, comfort or prestige. but as a more usable daily car and track toy is does excel. the M3 has always be more of a Raw flagship car for BMW and the M range. the M5 is the gentleman's supercar

for what it's worth, I didn't 'downgrade' from an F10 M5 to a F80 M3. I upgraded from the F10 M5 to a 991 turbo S, and bought the new F80 as my daily drive so that I can appreciate the Porsche more when I take it out of the garage. it is sad to have such as good DD car penned in the garage though!

[Bimmer6]

Originally Posted by M5essex

I agree with you on most of your points. the M3/4 is no match for the M5/6 mid range power, comfort or prestige. but as a more usable daily car and track toy is does excel. the M3 has always be more of a Raw flagship car for BMW and the M range. the M5 is the gentleman's supercar

for what it's worth, I didn't 'downgrade' from an F10 M5 to a F80 M3. I upgraded from the F10 M5 to a 991 turbo S, and bought the new F80 as my daily drive so that I can appreciate the Porsche more when I take it out of the garage. it is sad to have such as good DD car penned in the garage though!

I like that answer me too!

[CARMASTERRACE]

Originally Posted by M5essex

I agree with you on most of your points. the M3/4 is no match for the M5/6 mid range power, comfort or prestige. but as a more usable daily car and track toy is does excel. the M3 has always be more of a Raw flagship car for BMW and the M range. the M5 is the gentleman's supercar

for what it's worth, I didn't 'downgrade' from an F10 M5 to a F80 M3. I upgraded from the F10 M5 to a 991 turbo S, and bought the new F80 as my daily drive so that I can appreciate the Porsche more when I take it out of the garage. it is sad to have such as good DD car penned in the garage though!

I am not saying the M3 is worse than the M5. I think it is a very capable and interesting car in terms of handling, but I found it incredibly uncomfortable. The truth was I got back pain within driving it for a hour. It was my final test drive before buying it, because I had a lot of track time in it before, and in the track the car was sensational. I have never driven my M5 on the track but I am sure it is a lot worse. I think the M5 is a more practical and daily usable car in my opinion. Maybe the fact I am old and overweight has a lot to do with my preferences

Btw nice garage, I wanted a 991 Turbo S but as these things cost US$430k here, I gave up on buying one. Maybe when some used ones come with a cheap price. For all it is worth I will be keeping my garage at Macan Turbo and M5 for a while.

[M5essex]

Originally Posted by CARMASTERRACE

I am not saying the M3 is worse than the M5. I think it is a very capable and interesting car in terms of handling, but I found it incredibly uncomfortable. The truth was I got back pain within driving it for a hour. It was my final test drive before buying it, because I had a lot of track time in it before, and in the track the car was sensational. I have never driven my M5 on the track but I am sure it is a lot worse. I think the M5 is a more practical and daily usable car in my opinion. Maybe the fact I am old and overweight has a lot to do with my preferences

Btw nice garage, I wanted a 991 Turbo S but as these things cost US$430k here, I gave up on buying one. Maybe when some used ones come with a cheap price. For all it is worth I will be keeping my garage at Macan Turbo and M5 for a while.

thank you you have a nice stable too! i've heard a lot of good thinks about the Macan turbo and i've yet to see any on the roads over here...

im not exactly small and find the M3 seats very comfortable. of course the M5 seats do take some beating though. if you are a big guy I very much doubt you would like the 991 TTS seats too much either... wow, that is some sticker price for a turbo S in Brazil

I had the M5 CP and I found that pretty hard over uneven roads and bumps, so for me the M3 is not so harsh and comparable.

[Dionysus]

Originally Posted by M5essex

here's my new daily driving toy...

F80 looks great in lighter colours

My dealer was suggesting swapping M5 for a San Marino F80 LCI stock car, but non-CP, hence, no deal.

Interior material quality definitely improved in LCI. Whoever thought up the seat cutouts clearly does not have young children;lol.

I do 3-4hr m-way trips in M5; hard to imagine similar car with better seat comfort than M-multi functions. Have you tried the M3 on long trips?

[CARMASTERRACE]

Originally Posted by M5essex

thank you you have a nice stable too! i've heard a lot of good thinks about the Macan turbo and i've yet to see any on the roads over here...

im not exactly small and find the M3 seats very comfortable. of course the M5 seats do take some beating though. if you are a big guy I very much doubt you would like the 991 TTS seats too much either... wow, that is some sticker price for a turbo S in Brazil

I had the M5 CP and I found that pretty hard over uneven roads and bumps, so for me the M3 is not so harsh and comparable.

Thanks man. I made a review of the Macan Turbo here. I quite like it. Much better than I expected. The best compliment I can give it is that it does not feel like a SUV .

My M5 is non CP, actually there are only 2 CP M5s here as they cost an extra US$ 25,000 here over standard, and only come in personalized package, so the delivery takes 4 months. Therefore I am pretty sure my stock non CP M5 is more comfortable than the CP M5. This is maybe why I find the M3 harsh and the M5 soft .

The 991 TTS seat is pretty decent, and far better than I expected. I felt comfortable hauling ass in it. It is to me the top sports car, and if I had the money I would be crazy enough to order it.

[gmfive]

Originally Posted by Vic55

Not if you drive the M5 right... its a blast it just needs that boost of sound to match its power.

Conversely the M4/M3, to me, sounds terrible and relatively tingy as its rev'd up.

So both need sound mods.

Couldn't have said it better. The 2nd gear can give you enough room for smiles. Lots of fun stories to share haha.

[PawnStar]

Originally Posted by Chipped B6

As a owner for an F10 M5 and a F82 M4..

M4 is only better at being easy to throw around corners and being much lighter.

(Subjective opinion incoming) But.. more people compliment the looks the M4 then the M5. Most of the time coupes > sedans in look.

Sound, comfort, pulling power, prestige.. all go to M5.

I'd pick M5 anyday over F8x M's.

ANY DAY.

I test drove 16 ZCP M5 back to back with 16 DCT M4 at a BMW event. To me the two cars could not feel any more different. It was like two cars from two different manufacturers. I even drove X6M just to compare the three. While I was not overly impressed by either X6M or M4, I did not want to give the M5 back. When BMW staffer walked over to the car and asked 'what do you think?', my response was kinda unoriginal, 'ultimate driving machine'.

[Phatcat]

Fortunately you don't live in China or Taiwan, because it would definitely be viewed as a downgrade. People here care about "face", so the more expensive the car is, the better, doesn't matter what your needs are.

But throw that aside, personally I much rather have M5 than the M3. If you want a small and agile car, might as well go for a proper two door sports car.