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      04-01-2018, 06:54 AM   #1
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Anyone switch oil to 10w-60?

Thinking of switching at net refill. Anyone do this and have issues?
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      04-15-2018, 04:03 PM   #2
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10W-60 Not to be Used in the S63TU Engine

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That Oil specification will cause harm to your engine and as a result all sorts of problems down the track. It was specified for the previous M5 E60 S85 (V10) engine BUT not ours.

The S63TU requires (from the owners manual) :

When selecting an engine oil, ensure that the engine oil belongs to the viscosity grade SAE 0W-40, or malfunctions or engine damage may occur.

As an alternative, you can also use motor oils with a viscosity grade of SAE 0W-30.◀

The engine oil quality is critical for the life of the engine.

Suitable engine oil types

You can add engine oils that meet the following oil rating standards:

Oil rating

BMW Longlife-01.

BMW Longlife-01 FE.

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I thought it was the other way around, 0-30 as primary and 0-40 as an alternative. I had a recent oil change at a BMW dealership, and they filled my car with 0-30
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Oil & TBN

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I did a lot of research about BMW approved oils and i use (insist) on Mobil1 0W-40 (which is approved by BMW & Mercedes AMG & Porsche).

I use High TBN (Total Base Number) oils because they have a greater ability to resist engine wear and tear (pollutants associated with the combustion process) .

And I have used this in both my Bmw 135i M Sport (N55 Engine) and now my M5 with great success .

I change my Oil and Oil Filter every 12 months regardless of km/miles.

Our family has owned Bmw’s for over 40 years and we are pedantic about Annual Oil & Filter changes to protect our engines. Our engines are immaculate on tear down for overhaul/heavy maintenance.

I do not get/suffer any Oil Burn/Consumption between Oil Changes .

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I thought it was the other way around, 0-30 as primary and 0-40 as an alternative. I had a recent oil change at a BMW dealership, and they filled my car with 0-30
I think in the US 30 is the primary. Here in Taiwan 30 is also the primary, dealer doesn't carry 40 at all. But in Europe many uses 40.

However 30 or 40 I don't think it makes much difference.
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I think in the US 30 is the primary. Here in Taiwan 30 is also the primary, dealer doesn't carry 40 at all. But in Europe many uses 40.

However 30 or 40 I don't think it makes much difference.
Yeah, makes sense
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      05-20-2018, 07:02 AM   #7
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I spoke with Redline and they recommended going up to 10w-40 to slow down the oil burning. Also, I live in South Florida so lowest temp here is 40s (rare) with lots of 80s-100
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I dont get people's fascination with changing oil weight from manufacturers specs
Thinking valve tappet noise or oil usage determines if the car prefers this oil or the other
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      07-19-2018, 10:29 AM   #9
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Why would you want 10W-60? That oil is as thick as syrup. I had heart attack every time I tried to start my 07 M5 during the winter months, the car started up like a diesel truck. I had to switch to 0W-40 during winters.
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      07-28-2018, 05:08 AM   #10
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I dont get people trying to change what's recommended

Just put in what they say
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https://www.minimania.com/Motor_Oils..._Misunderstood
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if you rebuild your engine
you should go with 10W60
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If you Rebuild Motor Don’t use 10W-60 Oil

The S63tu requires a specific viscosity in order to flow cold and hot ; a 10w-60 oil will cause untold wear/damage to your engine .

This oil was approved and recommended on the previous E60 M5 S85 V10 engine but NOT ours.

BMW Technical Bulletin : Favorable Viscosity Temperature Behavior

“Viscosity is the tendency of oil to resist flowing. Engine oil, when cold, should be thin enough so that the engine can be cranked over. Hot oil should be thick enough to maintain proper lubrication.”

BMW M5 F10 :

“When selecting an engine oil, ensure that the engine oil belongs to the viscosity grade SAE 0W-40, or malfunctions or engine damage may occur.

As an alternative, you can also use motor oils with a viscosity grade of SAE 0W-30.◀”

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Using a 10-60 oil on the M5 S63tu is bad news for the timing chain,too thick and may cause premature wear. For UK moderate climate I use 0-30 Edge with LL04 rating which is higher than Mobil 1 0-40 LL01.
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anyone had tried Liqui Moly 5w-30 & 0w-40? Both are confirm fitment to 2014 M5 F10 but which one is better?
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10W-60 is to be used in high hp N/A engines. With stock engine I would stick to same weight OEM recommends.

I would suggest using a better oil than what BMW uses, a full ester based synthetic. Liquid Molly, Motul...
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10-60 is barely acceptable even in the S85/S65. That's why most people went to M1 0-40. I know this because I owned a S65 motor. After much research, it was recommended that M1 0-40 was easier on the bearings and simply delayed bearing wear. (Did not eliminate due to bearing design)

You're asking for a lot of issues putting in 10-60 for the S63 motor that required a thinner oil to begin with.

Just stop it. Use OEM 0-30 or LL-01 LFE-01 0-30 oil with better friction additives
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