2018 M5 Order Guide Posted!

[SFT33]

If you bought the car pre CP you think its not worth it. If you waited for it - you love it. That's how it typically works on here.

I own every version of the M5 (except the E39 - working on it). The fact of the matter is BMW is constantly improving their products and if you buy the first year of the car you run the risk of missing some very significant improvements that will be made - most notably the CP package.

For me - 7K for the improvements FROM THE FACTORY is worth it. For others - maybe not. To each his own.

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by josec70

Driven both many times and IMO there are many better ways to spend the $7K extra you pay for ZCP. You can get better suspension, much more power and better exhaust for a lot less.

I was not talking about "worth of $7k". I just said there is difference between them other than 15 HP... right???

[josec70]

Originally Posted by SFT33

If you bought the car pre CP you think its not worth it. If you waited for it - you love it. That's how it typically works on here.

I own every version of the M5 (except the E39 - working on it). The fact of the matter is BMW is constantly improving their products and if you buy the first year of the car you run the risk of missing some very significant improvements that will be made - most notably the CP package.

For me - 7K for the improvements FROM THE FACTORY is worth it. For others - maybe not. To each his own.

My first F10 M5 was a 13' (obviously non-ZCP); my second which is a 15' is also Non-ZCP.

I don't dispute that for many improvements from the factory are worth it I'm simply saying you can get much more for the $7K. In my case I added a piggy (conservative power but reliable), lightly used AKRA exhaust,KW HAS and drop-ins for $5K.

With this setup, I easily walk a stock ZCP car while sounding better, generate more power, handle exceptionally well and still had $ leftover for wheels.

Like you said to each his own; I'm just pointing out that many owners deliberately go the Non-ZCP route.

[allmotor_2000]

Originally Posted by josec70

In my case I added a piggy (conservative power but reliable), lightly used AKRA exhaust,KW HAS and drop-ins for $5K.

$5K installed?

[josec70]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

I was not talking about "worth of $7k". I just said there is difference between them other than 15 HP... right???

Subtle differences but differences none the less.

[josec70]

Originally Posted by allmotor_2000

$5K installed?

Installed ... if you're patient you can find great deals in the classifieds on this and other forums. That and a trusted shop (in my case Velos in Miami) and you don't have to bleed cash. Even if you spend 7K you can get much more for your money.

[adriants]

Sympathies. Red would have been great

[adriants]

CPs are worth the wait for sure.

[adriants]

Hear hear. Ride height, power, firmness. Not "just" 15hp. As we know it's an arbitrary number anyway with BMW. How many f10 cps actually have 575??

[thxbuff2001]

Has any one really ordered one already?

They dont know how much is the car, what options is available and how much?

[Fundguy1]

Originally Posted by Rated M Roadster

No red interior!?

Still trying to figure this out. The sakhir interior was one of the most popular colors, second only to black. Makes no sense.

[F83]

So I dropped $5k (refundable) to get my spot on the list secured. Before I actually place the order I need to decide between this and a comparably priced Panamera (likely a 4S or GTS if it's launched soon - Turbo is an unfair compare given huge pricing difference).

Really torn right now. M5 will undoubtedly destroy a 4S straight line but the Panamera drives much better than the current M5 and has a nicer interior. Question is; how much will the M5 improve with the new generation...

[DingolfingLove]

Originally Posted by F83

So I dropped $5k (refundable) to get my spot on the list secured. Before I actually place the order I need to decide between this and a comparably priced Panamera (likely a 4S or GTS if it's launched soon - Turbo is an unfair compare given huge pricing difference).

Really torn right now. M5 will undoubtedly destroy a 4S straight line but the Panamera drives much better than the current M5 and has a nicer interior. Question is; how much will the M5 improve with the new generation...

I sat in the Panamera Turbo S estate & the interior is v nice, but the seats are too firm and for the money I'd want way more performance than something that can just about keep up with an M5

[RPiM5]

Originally Posted by F83

So I dropped $5k (refundable) to get my spot on the list secured. Before I actually place the order I need to decide between this and a comparably priced Panamera (likely a 4S or GTS if it's launched soon - Turbo is an unfair compare given huge pricing difference).

Really torn right now. M5 will undoubtedly destroy a 4S straight line but the Panamera drives much better than the current M5 and has a nicer interior. Question is; how much will the M5 improve with the new generation...

The new Panny GTS will be one. Remember it will come with that NASA grade supercomputer that the Turbo gets. It will handle a lot better than the M5, plus the new GTS will also be turbocharged so you can always tune it to get M5 levels of straightline performance.

[F83]

Originally Posted by josec70

My first F10 M5 was a 13' (obviously non-ZCP); my second which is a 15' is also Non-ZCP.

I don't dispute that for many improvements from the factory are worth it I'm simply saying you can get much more for the $7K. In my case I added a piggy (conservative power but reliable), lightly used AKRA exhaust,KW HAS and drop-ins for $5K.

With this setup, I easily walk a stock ZCP car while sounding better, generate more power, handle exceptionally well and still had $ leftover for wheels.

Like you said to each his own; I'm just pointing out that many owners deliberately go the Non-ZCP route.

Too me it's just about the timing. If the ZCP was available at launch - I'd get it. But I'm not going to wait 24 months for the thing.

[LI-M5]

Originally Posted by F83

Too me it's just about the timing. If the ZCP was available at launch - I'd get it. But I'm not going to wait 24 months for the thing.

problem is , that w the timing and delay that by the time the 18's hit the
streets the lci will only be 8-13 mo's behind the non lci ..

thats exactly what happened w my 13 and its kinda pretty frustrating , they should just do a lci launch and keep it thru production imo that way we all have the same shit not chasing down $2k headlights and shit

Neil

[Bimmer6]

Clearly this is some insight what the M5 will look like. Here we go M550, and I would be very surprised if the M5 is a draw dropper can't change from the base model too much.

http://driving.ca/bmw/5-series/revie...w-m550i-xdrive

[Used2be]

Originally Posted by Bimmer6

Clearly this is some insight what the M5 will look like. Here we go M550, and I would be very surprised if the M5 is a draw dropper can't change from the base model too much.

I keep my cars many years and don't pay a lot of attention to the small steps of evolution unless there's a real game changer. I'm very happy with my 2013 M5 and it remains to be seen how the AWD will change the car. But from strictly a visual perspective, the 2018 5 series makes me glad I'm happy with the 2013! I don't care for either the exterior changes or the interior changes!

[SFT33]

I don't care what computer is in the Porsche - If I'm spending that much money on a P car I'm getting a 911.

[TrevorM3]

when will dealers be able to know pricing etc?

[bruza]

Originally Posted by thxbuff2001

Has any one really ordered one already?

They dont know how much is the car, what options is available and how much?

Exactly

Nor have we seen official pics

[F83]

Originally Posted by SFT33

I don't care what computer is in the Porsche - If I'm spending that much money on a P car I'm getting a 911.

Someone said to me recently;

"An M5 is for someone who knows cars and isn't messing around. A Panamera is for someone whose wife won't let him get a 911"