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      08-03-2019, 03:39 PM   #1
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Prayers for the families... Need to bring back public hanging or the electric chair and wet the sponge for the POS, he be alt right or extreme left, no difference...
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Prayers for the families... Need to bring back public hanging or the electric chair and wet the sponge for the POS, he be alt right or extreme left, no difference...
Yes, because there have been so many "extreme left" mass shootings.

In reality, you and people like you are precisely why the country can't move forward and address the senseless gun violence that keeps happening. Children were gunned down today, Dude. By a racist, immigrant-hating asshole. Who was unleashed by this president. The guy literally left a manifesto referencing Trump. This isn't a "both sides" issue. Maybe, and hear me out, you could try doing even a cursory bit of legitimate, fact-based, statistically-informed research before you post garbage takes on a public forum.

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Yes, because there have been so many "extreme left" mass shootings.

In reality, you and people like you are precisely why the country can't move forward and address the senseless gun violence that keeps happening. Children were gunned today, Dude. By a racist, immigrant-hating asshole. Who was unleashed by this president. This isn't a "both sides" issue. Maybe, and hear me out, you could try doing even a cursory bit of legitimate, fact-based, statistically-informed research before you post garbage takes on a public form.
Before name calling, I mentioned Alt right as well... but you missed that because you just prefer your narrative... You forgot to mention that your racist immigrant hating was reported to be registered democrat... I guess it was the President's fault. Have a good day.
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Yes, because there have been so many "extreme left" mass shootings.

In reality, you and people like you are precisely why the country can't move forward and address the senseless gun violence that keeps happening. Children were gunned today, Dude. By a racist, immigrant-hating asshole. Who was unleashed by this president. This isn't a "both sides" issue. Maybe, and hear me out, you could try doing even a cursory bit of legitimate, fact-based, statistically-informed research before you post garbage takes on a public form.
Before name calling, I mentioned Alt right as well... but you missed that because you just prefer your narrative... You forgot to mention that your racist immigrant hating was reported to be registered democrat... I guess it was the President's fault. Have a good day.
Wait a second, I'M the troll? You're posting bullshit on an M5 forum. Follow along with me... There. Is. No. Both. Sides. Here. White Nationalists were named by the head of the FBI a week ago as the most dangerous terrorists in the country. Wake the hell up.
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Wait a second, I'M the troll? You're posting bullshit on an M5 forum. Follow along with me... There. Is. No. Both. Sides. Here. White Nationalists were named by the head of the FBI a week ago as the most dangerous terrorists in the country. Wake the hell up.
Obviously you eat the CNN sauce and the whites are the root of all evil and must make reparation...bla,bla,bla...Are there white nationalists, absolutely yes, as there are MS13, black panthers, Antifa (mix of all)...etc... But I am notso sure the FBI is a reliable source at the moment...lol

As far as the M5 forum, it should have been posted in the politics section, but I did not start the tread. Again, sorry for ruffing your thin feathers.
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Wait a second, I'M the troll? You're posting bullshit on an M5 forum. Follow along with me... There. Is. No. Both. Sides. Here. White Nationalists were named by the head of the FBI a week ago as the most dangerous terrorists in the country. Wake the hell up.
Obviously you eat the CNN sauce and the whites are the root of all evil and must make reparation...bla,bla,bla...Are there white nationalists, absolutely yes, as there are MS13, black panthers, Antifa (mix of all)...etc... But I am notso sure the FBI is a reliable source at the moment...lol

As far as the M5 forum, it should have been posted in the politics section, but I did not start the tread. Again, sorry for ruffing your thin feathers.
Your level of ignorance is truly mind-blowing. Again, show me the examples of MS-13 and Antifa using military grade weapons to open fire on unarmed civilians.

I'll wait. ⏳
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To quote DJ Khaled: Another one!

When will we wake up and change gun laws? At least a minor change?
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furthermore we are the envy of the entire world for our freedom of gun ownership because every country wants to be able to protect themselves as well as we can and they all say the same thing about how they wish they had guns and the only people have guns are cops and gangsters/criminals..
Envy of the world? Really? Says who? Proof?

The whole world is shaking their heads at American gun laws. When it comes to guns, I think it’s actually “laughingstock of the world”.

Good guys with guns.... what percentage of mass shootings are prevented by “a good guy with a gun”?
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oh yes.. someone brave enough to debate me..

i knew that would be the first statement id have to prove.. lol.. dude.. u ever been real scared and wish u had a gun just in case? i know i have. like all kinds of unknown shady stuff goes on in random places. Especially when you drive a very nice car and have to get gas in a not well lit area in the hood... and it would absolutely suck to not have one and know that I couldn't have one if I ever needed one like for a home invasion.

gun in your pocket is peace of mind. Are you telling me with all these mass shootings at random places at random times you don't want to have a gun just in case?.. now more than ever?


yeah dude lots of people in lots of countries that don't have gun rights like us wish they had their own guns so they could defend and protect themselves in their own home. Years and years of playing online games with people from other countries we always start talking about politics and laws and they all are super jealous of how free we are with our guns that we can just have any gun we want and go shoot them whenever we want because they're pretty fun and awesome and they fucking protect your ass. Imagine living in a country where you couldn't have a weapon in your own home to defend your own home .. that is nothing to be jealous of. but being a boss and holding your shit down and knowing anybody that fucks with you is going to be pushing daisies is 100% envied by ppl that cant

nobody likes to be scared, have fear, or be defenseless.

where i live 98% of population is packing heat on their person 24/7. I have a friend that won't even go on the boat to cruise 2 miles without it. thefts dont happen but the rare Occurrence that they do, the intruder usually leaves in a body bag. people also respect each other here at least superficially for the most part and say yes sir and no ma'am with all exchanges.

Do your research ..just recently a civilian with concealed weapon took down an armed mass shooter. along with many other crimes like theft at gunpoint resolved by civilian with a gun. youtube bro. google bro. do it

do your research.

also .. If this doesn't make you understand and you dont believe it then sorry

but lets say they outlaw our guns.. yea, preacher John is gonna hand over his guns and will have to protect his family and homestead with a butcher knife or bow and arrow.

But you think the corner hoodrat gangster is gonna hand over his guns? well hell, theyre stolen and unregistered and technically don't even exist anyway so no one will come ask for them.

So good guy That wants gun for protection is fucked.
Bad guy That uses a gun for crime has a big leg up now and can now break in anywhere he wants like preacher John's home with zero fear of being killed or failing. might take his time and rape preacher John's wife while he's at it since hes the One with the gun and all the power and calling all the shots. Pun intended.

Does that make sense to you? seem plausible?
I have lived in the U.K for almost 50 years and not once have I ever wished I had a gun, And I have been in some rough places. Also been all over the states and same thing. The only place I seen anyone "packing heat" was in Texas and if i'm perfectly honest I found this situation very uncomfortable.
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Yes, because there have been so many "extreme left" mass shootings.

In reality, you and people like you are precisely why the country can't move forward and address the senseless gun violence that keeps happening. Children were gunned down today, Dude. By a racist, immigrant-hating asshole. Who was unleashed by this president. The guy literally left a manifesto referencing Trump. This isn't a "both sides" issue. Maybe, and hear me out, you could try doing even a cursory bit of legitimate, fact-based, statistically-informed research before you post garbage takes on a public forum.
Did you happen to look up the Dayton shooter? He supported Elizabeth Warren and is a socialist, but you didn't see a word of that on CNN.

Doesn't matter...crazy is crazy. Let's not forget the man who opened fire at a republican congressional soft ball practice.

I almost forgot...Chavez was a socialist too...He took the guns away from Venezuelan citizens early on. He fleeced the countries oil, kicked out private business, pitted the poor against the rich and now the poor are eating out of dumpsters. That's not hyperbole either.

We have guns in the US to protect against future oppressive regimes. The hundreds of millions guns in population assure that no country could ever invade us by land.

The real truth is people are murdered by the thousands everyday in our inner cities, and nobody gives a shit. Nobody talks about that because the cities are mostly democratic ran. It is a war zone in south Chicago. Like Ice T said, "Well I will give up my guns when everyone else does..." That will be never so I'll keep all 20 of mine. If push comes to war in twenty years, I will let you borrow my lowest caliber since you aren't for owning guns. Good luck with a .22 single shot.
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Wait a second, I'M the troll? You're posting bullshit on an M5 forum. Follow along with me... There. Is. No. Both. Sides. Here. White Nationalists were named by the head of the FBI a week ago as the most dangerous terrorists in the country. Wake the hell up.
You are trusting a FBI that just ran a 3 year long BS investigation that was bias to begin with and ultimately found a big fat nothing burger. They lied to a FISA court to spy on American citizens. Did you see the lead agent testify? Do you have any intuition? Peter "struck in the head" has the sleaziest and most egotistical persona I have seen in a while. People like you deserve a government like the one in Venezuela. You are easily manipulated.

Bro, put your thinking cap on. Don't be one of those Jim Jones followers.
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Your level of ignorance is truly mind-blowing. Again, show me the examples of MS-13 and Antifa using military grade weapons to open fire on unarmed civilians.

I'll wait. ⏳
You are ignorant. What makes a semi-auto military grade? Is it because it looks military grade? One bullet fires with one trigger pull. A skilled operator of a bolt action rifle could do more damage with a scope on a rooftop 500 yards away than a pimple faced kid with an AR-15 shooting from 15 yards away. Also, take someone well trained in pistol shooting and that person could take any glock and kill more people than that kid did. So before you go down the ban AR route, be prepared for the next preferred weapon of these crazies to be banned. There is nothing military grade about the gun other than the looks. All of these large manufacturers of guns have a civilian versions and law enforcement/military versions. Civilians can't buy a sub machine gun unless they have a very hard to get class 3 FFL license.

AR doesn't stand for assault rifle as CNN has told you. It is short for Armalite. The manufacture who produced that type of gun first. I bet you didn't know that. Assault rifle sounds better for fake news CNN.

I can assure you that bombs cause more destruction than a semi auto gun. You can take away all the semi auto guns and crazy people will find a way to kill. They are using trucks in France to mow down people walking the streets.
Let's have a discussion why these people are killing not what they are using.
They are using trucks in France to mow down people walking the streets.
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To quote DJ Khaled: Another one!

When will we wake up and change gun laws? At least a minor change?
I go to DJ Khaleed for all important societal questions...what a joke.

I bet that dude is armed to nines at all times...Hey, "I am DJ Khaleed. Ban all guns and I will keep mine."

Go look up ICE T's quote. He has lived longer and is more mature.

So DJ K for butchering the spelling of your name. I've never heard you before.
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Wait a second, I'M the troll? You're posting bullshit on an M5 forum. Follow along with me... There. Is. No. Both. Sides. Here. White Nationalists were named by the head of the FBI a week ago as the most dangerous terrorists in the country. Wake the hell up.
Let's talk about the mass shootings in Africa and the middle east? Do you want to? We can expand that to Europe as well. Let's talk about Paris being hit simultaneously in three different locations by terrorists armed with AK-47s.

Let's talk about the offices of Charlie Hebdo in Paris.

Let's talk about the Army Psychiatrist in Texas who opened fire on a military base.

I now pose the question to you. If you can actually prove that white nationalists have committed more mass shootings than any other race, I will surrender.

If you get stumped on this and begin to bring up actual wars, specifically Hitler and Germany, I will list for you millions more killed in both a war and non war setting by something other than a white nationalist. In fact, Hitler was a Fascist. So don't get confused. Also, if Europe had as many guns as the US does currently, Hitler would've had no chance. Ponder that simpleton.

In your own words,"I am waiting"
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I have lived in the U.K for almost 50 years and not once have I ever wished I had a gun, And I have been in some rough places. Also been all over the states and same thing. The only place I seen anyone "packing heat" was in Texas and if i'm perfectly honest I found this situation very uncomfortable.
No offense to our once rulers, but do you really think the purpose of our 2nd amendment is to protect ourselves against the acts of random violence? If you do, you haven't really put much thought into it.
Do you remember when the constitution was written and in what context.

Thanks to your late King we now have the right to bear arms. I sincerely thank you for all the oppression circa 1770's. Your ancestors were the major catalyst in creating a great country. I mean this with all due respect.
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For what it's worth I would be far more safer carrying small arms well hidden to protect my family should there be a terrorist outrage close to us and if it was the difference between being downed or them then at least we would have a chance of survival with the recent outrages in various parts of the world and keeping in mind the perpetrators could well be taken down by a trained handler (with no police record) before continuing their killing spree. With the gov legislation in GB the public are sitting ducks.
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For what it's worth I would be far more safer carrying small arms well hidden to protect my family should there be a terrorist outrage close to us and if it was the difference between being downed or them then at least we would have a chance of survival with the recent outrages in various parts of the world and keeping in mind the perpetrators could well be taken down by a trained handler (with no police record) before continuing their killing spree. With the gov legislation in GB the public are sitting ducks.
Allowing UK citizens to be armed is just ridiculous, look at the mess the USA are in because of the 'Right to bear arms' stupidity
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Allowing UK citizens to be armed is just ridiculous, look at the mess the USA are in because of the 'Right to bear arms' stupidity
Crims will always have arms whatever the legislation, the underworld always has them.My point was that in the recent incidents in London,Sydney Paris or anywhere and of course the US quick thinking trusted trained persons if present can prevent many more deaths.
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I say let everyone have a gun, what could possibly go wrong?
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