C63 vs M5

[Niko1414]

Ok something seems way off on this run??? Who was driving the M5 at the last no fly airstrip event ? Anyone here can explain this ?

[MTV]

short shifted, started in wrong gear... who knows.

[nba1008]

xtyper - Today, 12:41 PM

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Hey guys, video C63 car owner here. Thanks Sticky for frontpaging the video.

Believe me, both the M5 owner and myself were very surprised by the outcome. So much so, that we must have raced 5 times before the day was over. Every time, same result, almost dead even all the way to the finish line. The M5 owner was really cool, and I'm sure once he gets tuned it will be a very different story. Should note that I also raced another gray F10 M5 at the event with exhaust (another very cool guy), and although he beat me by about 2 cars, it was only because he jumped me at the start. By the end of the race I had stopped the pull. Had the start been even, it would have been a VERY close race, likely very similar to what you see here against the white M5.

If any other F10 M5's want a piece of me, I'll be at the next airstrip event in April with longtubes and a tune.

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See that post from benzboost website. It is also on mbworld. Dont know what the confusion is. It is a brand new 2013 c63 with P31 package.

[MTV]

From what I've read.. you have the 510HP black series motor?

[nba1008]

Originally Posted by MTV

From what I've read.. you have the 510HP black series motor?

I am not the OWNER of the c63 or have any affiliations with either party or website. Just happened to be on both forums and saw these posts.

To my understanding it is C63 with P31 package = 481HP (AMG rates it at that number FACTORY).

[Timberwolf]

I think if someone does tune and downpipes and race him at the next event it should be interesting. I know those C63s respond well to tune and headers, so the turbo advantage isn't that radical.

[Vic55]

The owner of the C63 did state he used a mixture of race gas for whatever thats worth...

[Niko1414]

Just doesn't make sense

I've seen stock p31 only throw down between 390-411whp and 350-365wtq. Yes the c63 is lighter but....

Curious what speed you guys rolled from and what gear the m5 was in ?

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by Niko1414

Just doesn't make sense

I've seen stock p31 only throw down between 390-411whp and 350-365wtq. Yes the c63 is lighter but....

Curious what speed you guys rolled from and what gear the m5 was in ?

I wish we knew who the M5 owner was---- i know the c63 owner, he is a good guy.

[xtyper313]

Originally Posted by Vic55

I wish we knew who the M5 owner was---- i know the c63 owner, he is a good guy.

Awww shucks, thanks Vic.

[hellrotm]

Originally Posted by Niko1414

Just doesn't make sense

I've seen stock p31 only throw down between 390-411whp and 350-365wtq. Yes the c63 is lighter but....

Curious what speed you guys rolled from and what gear the m5 was in ?

I think as time goes on it will make more sense. More events and races will follow. Starting to think the weight of the M5 hurts a little and the power ratings were a bit over blown. Stock M5's took some other loses that day.

[xtyper313]

Hey Niko, you going out to the SS airstrip event in April? Although I don't have my E63 anymore, seems like we need to match up so you can avenge the M5 crowd against my C63.

Hoping to see you out there!

[Rob///M5]

Darn, bad timing on the next airstrip event. Myself and a number of other SoCal M5 owners will be at ///M School that date.

[Niko1414]

I will be there...maybe I should bring my c63 instead

I'm still curious to know what speed and gear the M5 was in and what settings. Maybe cpiguy (arnie) can answer from his run?

Last airstrip event my typical setup for a 40mph roll was: 2nd gear, S3, sport plus and MDM. Perfect settings for racing on a roll.

I held my own until Eric's Tuned E63 put the hurt on me. Haha rematch with c63 this time love it!!!!

[Tylerstar]

Iv'e ran 2 C63s before and have never lost. The M5 does not even look like it's putting the power down properly,this is just a fluke.

[xtyper313]

Originally Posted by Tylerstar

Iv'e ran 2 C63s before and have never lost. The M5 does not even look like it's putting the power down properly,this is just a fluke.

My bet is you ran C63's without the P31 package. The P31 package really is a game changer.

It should be noted that I ran this white M5 multiple times at the event, with same dead heat outcome each time. I also ran cpiguy's f10 m5 with exhaust at the event and similar outcome..very close race.

[Niko1414]

I've raced my 09 c63 with a tune and my M5 beats it from a roll at least two+ car lengths to about 120mph. Tested multiple times. I've also raced a stock p31 with my c63 and pretty close. Half a car length behind or so. Maybe the newer c63 are faster ??

[Tylerstar]

Originally Posted by Niko1414

I will be there...maybe I should bring my c63 instead

I'm still curious to know what speed and gear the M5 was in and what settings. Maybe cpiguy (arnie) can answer from his run?

Last airstrip event my typical setup for a 40mph roll was: 2nd gear, S3, sport plus and MDM. Perfect settings for racing on a roll.

I held my own until Eric's Tuned E63 put the hurt on me. Haha rematch with c63 this time love it!!!!

+1, those are perfect settings and from 2nd gear beyond 4KRPMS the M5 really pulls. Thats probably the M5's strongest gear except for 3rd. Their are so many factors that can go in this. But no doubt C63's are very quick I drove my friends with a tune and its a monster.

[Tylerstar]

Originally Posted by xtyper313

My bet is you ran C63's without the P31 package. The P31 package really is a game changer.

It should be noted that I ran this white M5 multiple times at the event, with same dead heat outcome each time. I also ran cpiguy's f10 m5 with exhaust at the event and similar outcome..very close race.

Your right it didn't have the P31 package but it did have a tune. I guess we'll have to wait for the results next time. Or your c63 is just a monster compared to others. Nice car BTW, I actually went to see a Coupe with the P31 package last weekend, beautiful car.

[cpiguy]

Hi guys:

I'm the owner of the Singapore Gray M5, and Eirc and I had a great race. You see, when you get to my age, you need to cheat just a little, so yes, I jumped him. His car is really, really fast, but I don't care cause I WON

[Niko1414]

Originally Posted by cpiguy

Hi guys:

I'm the owner of the Singapore Gray M5, and Eirc and I had a great race. You see, when you get to my age, you need to cheat just a little, so yes, I jumped him. His car is really, really fast, but I don't care cause I WON

Classic!!!

What gear and setting where you set to..inquiring minds want to know

[gctsvcxq]

I think if someone does tune and downpipes and race him at the next event it should be interesting.