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      11-04-2021, 04:38 PM   #1
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Completely badass video!!
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      11-05-2021, 05:21 AM   #3
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The vid was cool.
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Awesome video. I was surprised the CT5-V was able to beat the M5 CS on the track. Willow Springs is a very fast track, hence the Plaid being the fastest despite shit brakes and inferior suspension, but not seeing why the V beat the CS. V has higher HP rating, but as far as I can tell they dyno about the same and weigh the same. I'd have thought the CS would then get the advantage by being able to get on power sooner coming out of the corners.

edit: also the fact that Throttle House in their review says multiple times that it doesn't have the power of the M5.
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Awesome video. I was surprised the CT5-V was able to beat the M5 CS on the track. Willow Springs is a very fast track, hence the Plaid being the fastest despite shit brakes and inferior suspension, but not seeing why the V beat the CS. V has higher HP rating, but as far as I can tell they dyno about the same and weigh the same. I'd have thought the CS would then get the advantage by being able to get on power sooner coming out of the corners.

edit: also the fact that Throttle house says multiple times that it doesn't have the power of the M5.
But M5CS should've had the advantage of 8 spd automatic transmission which undoubtedly should shift faster than CTS manual
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But M5CS should've had the advantage of 8 spd automatic transmission which undoubtedly should shift faster than CTS manual
Yeah, that would be yet another advantage of the M5. Though with how tall the gears are in the V, Randy probably didn't have to shift a ton, anyways. I wish Throttle House had gotten to use the V on their own, much tighter track. I'm thinking it would fall in 2nd place between the M5 CS and the (there slower) Plaid.
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Cool at first, then it turned into a Cadillac commercial.
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      11-06-2021, 04:09 AM   #8
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Must have been a one off track for the electric car,I agree the M in the turns would have come out tops, the tesla is all go in a straight non bumpy line not what the roads are like.
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Must have been a one off track for the electric car,I agree the M in the turns would have come out tops, the tesla is all go in a straight non bumpy line not what the roads are like.
Willow springs is a fast track, with just 9 turns in 2.5 miles. Definitely plays to the Plaid's strengths, but it's also the track Jason and Randy seem to use in general.
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I wonder why Pobst didn't hot lap the Plaid...
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      11-07-2021, 09:10 PM   #11
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Cool at first, then it turned into a Cadillac commercial.
Agree 100%. Had the potential to be a good comparo but they got distracted along the way and turned it into an advertisement for Cadillac (money talks I suppose). And then forgot to put the Tesla around the track.

Quality of the production was great though!
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Agree 100%. Had the potential to be a good comparo but they got distracted along the way and turned it into an advertisement for Cadillac (money talks I suppose). And then forgot to put the Tesla around the track.

Quality of the production was great though!
ICONS episodes are always intended to focus on a single car, they just bring others along. Like you I'd rather have had a true comparison, though.
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They posted a side-by-side of each lap, good on them.

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They posted a side-by-side of each lap, good on them.

Really there was nothing much in it and confirms what you said about the sh*tty suspension and brakes on the tesla.
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Really there was nothing much in it and confirms what you said about the sh*tty suspension and brakes on the tesla.
I wish they had at the end let Randy give his impressions. Tesla had the best time, but I highly doubt he liked driving it as much as the others. I'd also really liked for him to speak to why he thought the V beat the CS.
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I wish they had at the end let Randy give his impressions. Tesla had the best time, but I highly doubt he liked driving it as much as the others. I'd also really liked for him to speak to why he thought the V beat the CS.
Indeed there's not much point with the 'point and squirt' tesla if you are (obviously) looking for a good driving experience with feel and enjoyment for your bucks.
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To be fair - Probst is a Tesla factory driver.

Does anyone in here believe that Tesla would’ve allowed their factory driver to participate in a YouTube video where Tesla didn’t win?
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Cool at first, then it turned into a Cadillac commercial.
It was literally a paid advertisement for caddy… now that they want bmw money for their stuff, no one wants it.
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Seems like the M5 was the innocent party there with the other two having a desired interest in the trial.
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Cool at first, then it turned into a Cadillac commercial.
It was literally a paid advertisement for caddy… now that they want bmw money for their stuff, no one wants it.
Exactly. I knew for sure when they brought the whole damn lineup for no reason.
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