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Yes, we will be able to get the power down!
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01-22-2015, 06:31 PM | #46 |
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Exactly !
AWD will be necessary knowing that the 2016 ///M5 comes with 600HP .
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I like the idea and frankly would probably get it if available. I do hope it's optional and as someone posted elsewhere it would be nice if it is either programable on/off via M settings or iDrive or there is an on/off button in the cabin. I think this move is a perceived market shift for BMW. They will likely lose some "purists", but gain buyers who passed on the car previously because it didn't have AWD. The middle chunk of M5 owners will likely get another with or without AWD. I think they're betting they'll gain more new buyers than lose old ones. I just hope this is not just an xDrive insert though, can't imagine it would be. If it's done well, I think it will still be a great sports sedan. Albeit, with different driving characteristics.
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01-22-2015, 07:27 PM | #49 |
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make it as a option
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Ok what is wrong with making AWD an option? Why do so many of you have to be to stubborn to change? If you don't want AWD then spec out the car without it. Geez :
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Not to knock the US version of the E63 or Audi AWD sedan products - they are great cars. Just boring driver sedans when compared to the M5 IMHO.
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wow! very interesting
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Audi cannot send all torque to rear, and Mercedes has a fixed 70/30 rear/front bias. I would imagine that BMW will build the same flexibility that the Ferrari and Jaguar systems have - i.e. 100% torque to rear wheels unless it starts losing stability or traction. Here's a description of Jaguar's system. What I like - 100% torque sent to rear wheels most of the time; no parasitic losses while 100% torque being sent to rear wheels. Also the electronic center coupling engaging and disengaging sounds very similar to the Ferrari system which disengages the front wheel driveshaft when not needed. Quote:
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I'm sorry, not sure what the big fuss is about. I think people want RWD for the sake of having a BMW with RWD. If the M5 is to have an expected 600HP+, it doesn't make sense to me to let 2 wheels handle all that power - not happening. Everybody wants argue that BMW lost this, BMW isn't that. If Porsche is considering discontinuing the GT2 because RWD wouldn't cut it, why would BMW of all companies leave 2 wheels to handle all that power?
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From a dig, some intelligent AWD would be a nice performance option.
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It is not like the ///M engineers are just going to pluck the xdrive out of the 550 and slap it in the M5 and call it a day. I am pretty sure they will work their magic and make it pretty damn good system. It may piss a few die hard RWD BMW fans but if it sells more, they could give a rats ass. They want sales and growth period.
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Looks like it's an oldie, it's a pre-LCI
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Anyone that comments here on this post better have driven a recent m5. If you haven't then you do not know how little grip and what a beast the m5 is. A rear focused awd m5 would be the smartest change m division could come up with. Everyone that's commenting on how it will ruin m cars and how that's not what m is about is clearly a ignorant little b**** that has never driving a high hp and high tq BMW like a m5. I hate how people who never driven most of these cars are still allowed to comment on these threads.
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