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      08-07-2008, 10:48 AM   #23
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So if it's an M7, I bet it will have:

600 hp 6.0 L V12
7 speed/2 clutch M DCT
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      08-07-2008, 01:33 PM   #24
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that is not the new m5!!!!! stop!!

the new m5 wont debut until a year or two after the new 5 series!

that is the 555i! it has remained the same look through out the past few months!


383lbft of m5 torque vs 450lbft of 555i torque
nice match up
I'D LOVE TO SEE THIS VIDEO!!!!!
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      08-07-2008, 01:36 PM   #25
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i'm anxious for this 555i.. i believe this car is what i really want if not an m5 of m3
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      08-08-2008, 01:27 AM   #26
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do we know if bmw is moving toward forced induction with the next gen ///m5? Twin Tubro V8?!
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So if it's an M7, I bet it will have:

600 hp 6.0 L V12
7 speed/2 clutch M DCT
LSD
20" wheels
I wish....that thing needs 21'' , I doubt 6.0 V12 , I think they wont make these anymore but it does need 600hp+ if it wans to compete with u know who...
oh and that doesnt look like a 555er...look at grill see how big it is? the car is wider its not the five series and dont tell me 555er has 4tailpipes too?...no its a 7er M , they want to se how fast and is it faster than the current M5 , thats so logical to me
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JUst wait for the darn thing to come out
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      09-28-2008, 10:59 PM   #30
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Couldn't disagree more. Looks like they did away with those ridiculous headlights on the e60, the ugly taillights are gone as well. I'm very excited to see what the next gen really looks like.
You disagree because you don't have any taste, obviously.

I hope this is not much larger than the current M5. I hope that BMW is not making a M7. I hope that BMW cancels their plans with the X5M and X6M. If these things happen then BMW will for sure be on a downhill trend.
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      09-29-2008, 07:54 AM   #31
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They are making an M7 prototype got this news from dealership here in LA that is heading out of the states to test the new M5 and M7 prototype. I am not joking! Hell they are coming with an X5 and X6 M so why do you not think they will have one for the 7 series?
I am afraid your dealer is very much wrong. Or trying to elevate his position higher in the food chain when he is very much at the bottom.
Anybody outwith BMW AG do not get to drive the car until it is the final stages for launch and that includes dealers.


There are no plans for an M7 and there is no way your dealer will be driving the new F10 M5 because that is very much still at conception stage.
The car testing with the M5 is the Twin-Turbo V8 , which kind of shows how BMW benchmark their models. If the new F10 550i can drive as good as the current M5 , then you will see how BMW have to overcome an obstacle to making the new M5 more progressive than the current M5.

As of now there is no definite plan of action. At BMW we plan , develop and test all solutions so contradicting what the media say there is no concrete plans to replace the V10 with a V8 as both ideas are on the table , both turbo charged and utilising tech under "Efficient Dynamics" these prototypes are identified as current M5 sedans with additional extra cooling. That are using upgraded V8's and V10's as test beds connected to upgraded M-DKG gearboxes , and prototype manual boxes. There are ways to make the V10 more viable to todays requirements especially through Efficient Dynamics tech. And at BMW we develop and test all solutions.
There is much development happening even as I speak.

I am not going to mention of the speculation that the M5 will receive a V8 as many within BMW and indeed M Division think this would make the M5 like the competition and lose some of it's lustre.
As there is much to do before the Frankfurt 2011 launch of the F10 M5 and that includes evaluating several prototypes

A V10 would give BMW the edge over the competition just as the current M5 does today. BMW want to make the next generation of M cars more fuel efficient but still with that edge over the competition. I have no doubt Mercedes will have a V8 even turbocharged or NA? BMW will go further with turbo charging and technology such as an M developed dynamic drive technology aimed at offering a better, powerful and more efficient M5.

And this includes ground breaking developments that will make headlines.
Such as a production first KERS technology which was originally considered for the M3 CSL. But the technology is very much in infancy and not currently at BMW's expectations for a road car which is why the M3 CSL was postponed.
When the technology is at it's optimum level then BMW will show off their development in a Concept car.

People tend to not realise that BMW are not Audi , nor Mercedes-Benz therefore there is no need to illustrate BMW's product line as the complete double of our competition. Regarding our SAV's we know what we are doing and we know what emerging markets such cars will be successful in.
We have to accept that markets that are big for us today will not be tomorrow.

BMW might be getting applaudits and awards and upsetting traditionalists because we " Being Nice to the trees" But the new M5 will become a car that pushes the boundaries further in What Efficient Dynamics can do in a performance car.
There will be performance , agility and the best car in the upper performance sector and greater efficiency. ( A complaint regarding the current car)
when this car arrives the competition wont even know what hit them.

BMW want the next 5er to begin the countdown in dynamics,design,performance and efficiency and whet the appetite for the next M5. The BMW M5 will remain BMW's top line performance sedan , While for now the 7er will be BMW's flagship luxury sedan.
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      10-23-2008, 03:13 PM   #32
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I was partial to the Bangle styles when the last M5 and M6 came out, and absolutely loved my 745Li.


Never thought the day would come but I now hate the direction that BMW is going and have lost all interest other than the M3.

I dont like the small changes to the 7 series, I certainly dont like the renderings of the 5 series that look like bloated 335's. And this 5 series is DEFINITELY bigger than the E60, paneling or no paneling, it's bigger, it sits higher, is taller, and is wider, panels or no panels.

BMW is designing itself into obscurity. Bangle is killing my enthusiasm, for the BMW brand.


Edit: I will eat crow on this whole post if the 5 series looks like the one in the "preview 2010 revealed thread" , now that is gorgeous.


Still hate the 7 series now though.
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