Weistec W.4 Turbo Upgrade System

[Soofy]

I get that, but still how you guys can just putting numbers out there with no testing the actual turbos on the car? :, at least shows some real number and say ( yeah we made 900whp on stock engine NOW Wait for other results with rebuild motors.

[Weistec Engineering]

Originally Posted by Soofy

I get that, but still how you guys can just putting numbers out there with no testing the actual turbos on the car? :, at least shows some real number and say ( yeah we made 900whp on stock engine NOW Wait for other results with rebuild motors.

Real world numbers will be shown soon, as mentioned in previous posts. Until then, they are Garrett GTX Gen 2 based turbos. It is very easy to verify what they are capable of, per Garrett's rating as well as what the turbos make on similar displacement engines.

[Penguino]

Great to see Weistec here and hopefully more options in the future to choose from. I understand these are full replacement and merit a higher price but not looking forward to another manufacturer that assumes M drivers all make $200k a year or are willing to drop nearly $20k on a turbo upgrade. I'm very much looking forward to a comparable product to Pure and putting your company reputation and R&D behind it. Welcome to the BMW community.

[Weistec Engineering]

Originally Posted by Penguino

Great to see Weistec here and hopefully more options in the future to choose from. I understand these are full replacement and merit a higher price but not looking forward to another manufacturer that assumes M drivers all make $200k a year or are willing to drop nearly $20k on a turbo upgrade. I'm very much looking forward to a comparable product to Pure and putting your company reputation and R&D behind it. Welcome to the BMW community.

Thank you

That is exactly why we will also be offering an impeller upgrade for the stock turbos as well. Not everyone wants to go all out and surely many people prefer the stealthy look of stock housing turbos.

We are also, depending on demand, considering offering a trade in program for those that want to trade in their stock turbos to receive a discount on the W.4 turbos.

[BMWAUDIO]

Why are you guys beating them up on price
pure stage 2 turbos are $4995 + 4600 core
$9595
then add in the cost for a good pair of downpipes

so the price is justified in my mind
$11995 includes New Red Coated Turbos , downpipes and stainless steel braided lines ,
its really not that much more and you are getting BRAND NEW TURBOS not just rebuild ones

keep up the great work i think what most people here want is for you guys to just put the car on a dyno and see what it can do with no additional mods just your turbos , downpipes and tune you offer recomend .

then add in the methanol kit and post the improvements

Curious what methanol kit is used and how it is controlled ?
thanks

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by BMWAUDIO

Why are you guys beating them up on price
pure stage 2 turbos are $4995 + 4600 core
$9595
then add in the cost for a good pair of downpipes

so the price is justified in my mind
$11995 includes New Red Coated Turbos , downpipes and stainless steel braided lines ,
its really not that much more and you are getting BRAND NEW TURBOS not just rebuild ones

keep up the great work i think what most people here want is for you guys to just put the car on a dyno and see what it can do with no additional mods just your turbos , downpipes and tune you offer recomend .

then add in the methanol kit and post the improvements

Curious what methanol kit is used and how it is controlled ?
thanks

It's thousands more than a comparable kit for a GTR with brand new turbos.

[Costello1991]

Jesus Christ ...

[classyfast]

Damn.....



That is all

[ORIGIN M.]

Completely Awesome !!

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by Costello1991

Jesus Christ ...

Him to.

[Phatcat]

Originally Posted by dmk08

It's thousands more than a comparable kit for a GTR with brand new turbos.

Maybe due to market size.

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by Phatcat

Maybe due to market size.

I think you mean M Tax

[Phatcat]

Originally Posted by dmk08

I think you mean M Tax

Yeah could be because it's BMW but it's also possible because of the market size.

I would think the tuning market for the GTR is larger than the M5. When it comes to amortize the development cost over unit sales I am not surprised M5's kit is more expensive.

[01'325rip]

Originally Posted by Phatcat

Yeah could be because it's BMW but it's also possible because of the market size.

I would think the tuning market for the GTR is larger than the M5. When it comes to amortize the development cost over unit sales I am not surprised M5's kit is more expensive.

^ 100% agree with you on this

[sgm.e90]

Originally Posted by BMWAUDIO

Why are you guys beating them up on price
pure stage 2 turbos are $4995 + 4600 core
$9595
then add in the cost for a good pair of downpipes

so the price is justified in my mind
$11995 includes New Red Coated Turbos , downpipes and stainless steel braided lines ,
its really not that much more and you are getting BRAND NEW TURBOS not just rebuild ones

keep up the great work i think what most people here want is for you guys to just put the car on a dyno and see what it can do with no additional mods just your turbos , downpipes and tune you offer recomend .

then add in the methanol kit and post the improvements

Curious what methanol kit is used and how it is controlled ?
thanks

Issue is that you can't get 4600 for pair of stock turbos now can you? The core deposit is refunded when you ship the turbos back to pure. So end result is what 5k?

[Weistec Engineering]

Originally Posted by BMWAUDIO

Why are you guys beating them up on price
pure stage 2 turbos are $4995 + 4600 core
$9595
then add in the cost for a good pair of downpipes

so the price is justified in my mind
$11995 includes New Red Coated Turbos , downpipes and stainless steel braided lines ,
its really not that much more and you are getting BRAND NEW TURBOS not just rebuild ones

keep up the great work i think what most people here want is for you guys to just put the car on a dyno and see what it can do with no additional mods just your turbos , downpipes and tune you offer recomend .

then add in the methanol kit and post the improvements

Curious what methanol kit is used and how it is controlled ?
thanks

Methanol kit is controlled with an AEM controller. 2.25 gallon tank has integrated mounting for the pump and a level sensor. A 4 in 1 cable is provided to run just one cable to the trunk then break out into the 4 wires needed to wire up the pump and the level sensor

Twin CNC machined and anodized injectors that fit into the ports on the Weistec silicone charge pipes with three different nozzles each, 250cc, 500cc, and 1000cc. 1/4" plastic line and QD fittings are provided.

Also included is all the hardware for a bolt in intake manifold pressure reference for the controller.

It is a comprehensive add on to the W.4 turbos

We will also be making charge pipes for stock frame turbos that will take the same injectors for those that want the kit but do not have W.4 turbos.

[Penguino]

Originally Posted by Phatcat

Yeah could be because it's BMW but it's also possible because of the market size.

I would think the tuning market for the GTR is larger than the M5. When it comes to amortize the development cost over unit sales I am not surprised M5's kit is more expensive.

Look at the kit and I'm not sure any components require much more extensive development versus a GTR kit.

[harkes]

Isn't Weistech the company that has been associated with several fraudulent cases?

[TheHouseWon]

I think those are the former employees taking money for orders where Weistec was expected to deliver but former emplyees kept the money.

[Phatcat]

Originally Posted by Penguino

Look at the kit and I'm not sure any components require much more extensive development versus a GTR kit.

You misunderstood me, I'm not saying M kit is more expensive to develop. I'm saying GTR market is larger hence more units to amortize the cost.

Let's say both GTR and M5's kit cost 1000 to develop, but GTR kit developer thinks he can sell 1000 units, where as M5 kit developer thinks he can sell 100 units, which kit you think will be more expensive?

[Penguino]

Originally Posted by Phatcat

You misunderstood me, I'm not saying M kit is more expensive to develop. I'm saying GTR market is larger hence more units to amortize the cost.

Let's say both GTR and M5's kit cost 1000 to develop, but GTR kit developer thinks he can sell 1000 units, where as M5 kit developer thinks he can sell 100 units, which kit you think will be more expensive?

I understand you perfectly but you normally you amortize high tooling costs, excessive R&D etc. For it to be several thousand dollar difference in price it must be a very large development cost discrepancy which isn't the case. It's mostly M-tax and M owners willing to pay it.

[Phatcat]

Originally Posted by Penguino

I understand you perfectly but you normally you amortize high tooling costs, excessive R&D etc. For it to be several thousand dollar difference in price it must be a very large development cost discrepancy which isn't the case. It's mostly M-tax and M owners willing to pay it.

Well I don't doubt there are some M tax in there but at the same time I'm just saying the market size makes a difference too.