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      02-24-2017, 10:44 AM   #1
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Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid revealed! 680hp with 31 miles all electric range!

So I guess there's not going to be a regular Panamera Turbo S then?

I also highly doubt that the next M5 will be able to out perform that blistering 0-60 time of 3.2 seconds.

Also the all electric range of 31 miles is super impressive!

I do wonder if Stealth.Pilot would rather have this than the next M5? Lol!

Check it out.



http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...ower?fbfanpage
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      02-24-2017, 11:48 AM   #2
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Wow this thing is going to be fast especially with AWD
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      02-24-2017, 12:57 PM   #3
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Wow this thing is going to be fast especially with AWD
Dude, it's essentially going to be a Porsche 918 but with 4-Doors. Insane!
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So I guess there's not going to be a regular Panamera Turbo S then?

I also highly doubt that the next M5 will be able to out perform that blistering 0-60 time of 3.2 seconds.

Also the all electric range of 31 miles is super impressive!

I do wonder if Stealth.Pilot would rather have this than the next M5? Lol!

Check it out.



http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...ower?fbfanpage
I saw this on the news. Looks amazing. Like a 4 door 918. What an amazing car. I hope BMW does this with the next M5.

I think I will buy one of these eventually, but:

1) after they launch the update with the new Porsche HUD (not sure if 2018 MY will have it)

AND

2) after someone else owns it for a year and 5000 miles!
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I like. I won't like the 185k price tag though.
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I like. I won't like the 185k price tag though.
With options, definitely over $200k, Lol!
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      02-24-2017, 02:45 PM   #7
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With options, definitely over $200k, Lol!
its Porsche... haha could probably spec one to 250k plus
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      02-24-2017, 05:22 PM   #8
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With options, definitely over $200k, Lol!
its Porsche... haha could probably spec one to 250k plus
Easily!
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Not all is lost, while the Pam Turbo or Turbo S no doubt probably better on track, M5 should be able to beat them in a roll.

In fact based on the latest Auto Bild test, the new Pam Turbo needs 35.1 seconds just to get to 280km/h, even the current F10 M5 is quicker than that.

It's not a knock against the Porsche since it looks like they prioritized downforce over top speed acceleration, but since many in this forum are more interested in a rolling competition than a track competition, I think the M5 still is a good choice.
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Not all is lost, while the Pam Turbo or Turbo S no doubt probably better on track, M5 should be able to beat them in a roll.

In fact based on the latest Auto Bild test, the new Pam Turbo needs 35.1 seconds just to get to 280km/h, even the current F10 M5 is quicker than that.

It's not a knock against the Porsche since it looks like they prioritized downforce over top speed acceleration, but since many in this forum are more interested in a rolling competition than a track competition, I think the M5 still is a good choice.
Imteresting analysis.

Time will tell I suppose.
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      02-25-2017, 06:31 PM   #11
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Only problem fully loaded pan turbo s vs fully loaded m5 will have +-550kg difference
I cannot see this being amazing on track with 2400kgs... it will still be a pig
But luxury af and 0-150kmh king no doubt
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Only problem fully loaded pan turbo s vs fully loaded m5 will have +-550kg difference
I cannot see this being amazing on track with 2400kgs... it will still be a pig
But luxury af and 0-150kmh king no doubt
The 2017 turbo has a curb weight of 1995kg, only 45kg more than the F10 M5. I doubt the S will add more than 100kg. The F90 M5 will probably be very close to the current M5 in weight.

Unfortunately the Turbo S is way out of my budget, a loaded turbo is nearing a quarter of a million (cdn) for a sedan!
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      02-26-2017, 08:19 AM   #13
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The 2017 turbo has a curb weight of 1995kg, only 45kg more than the F10 M5. I doubt the S will add more than 100kg. The F90 M5 will probably be very close to the current M5 in weight.

Unfortunately the Turbo S is way out of my budget, a loaded turbo is nearing a quarter of a million (cdn) for a sedan!
Assuming there is a S though, because the S E-Hybrid is way heavy with the addition of batteries and etc. It is 700 pounds more than the standard Turbo.

Porsche's factory time for the Turbo on the ring is 7:38, but they haven't released one for the S E-Hybrid.
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The 2017 turbo has a curb weight of 1995kg, only 45kg more than the F10 M5. I doubt the S will add more than 100kg. The F90 M5 will probably be very close to the current M5 in weight.

Unfortunately the Turbo S is way out of my budget, a loaded turbo is nearing a quarter of a million (cdn) for a sedan!
Assuming there is a S though, because the S E-Hybrid is way heavy with the addition of batteries and etc. It is 700 pounds more than the standard Turbo.

Porsche's factory time for the Turbo on the ring is 7:38, but they haven't released one for the S E-Hybrid.
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/ne...ybrid-revealed

If you check here it says 23xx kg for Turbo S
Exactly due to battery(ies) weight

New m5 should be 100-150kg lighter than current one
Hence difference will be 400-600kg
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Assuming there is a S though, because the S E-Hybrid is way heavy with the addition of batteries and etc. It is 700 pounds more than the standard Turbo.

Porsche's factory time for the Turbo on the ring is 7:38, but they haven't released one for the S E-Hybrid.
The Turbo S is the launch car so it's available.

http://www.porsche.com/usa/models/panamera/
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http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/ne...ybrid-revealed

If you check here it says 23xx kg for Turbo S
Exactly due to battery(ies) weight

New m5 should be 100-150kg lighter than current one
Hence difference will be 400-600kg
I stand corrected! I hope the M5 doesn't go hybrid anytime soon then
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So far this has become my all time favorite car to own, and I don't see that changing. I've driven the 650S hard, and this has been a all around driver, track, mountain roads, and street driving. I feel bad from my M4 less than 6000 miles in 1.5 years. I will have to figure out the next DD summer 2018 so we will see what's in the market. Just finished a little quick bath ..........next the M4 today.
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Still have the M passion I really hope the M5 is a treat!
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Assuming there is a S though, because the S E-Hybrid is way heavy with the addition of batteries and etc. It is 700 pounds more than the standard Turbo.

Porsche's factory time for the Turbo on the ring is 7:38, but they haven't released one for the S E-Hybrid.
The Turbo S is the launch car so it's available.

http://www.porsche.com/usa/models/panamera/
Maybe I'm blind but where is the Turbo S?
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My Bad is a turbo no S. Basically to turbo versions coupled with the Hybrid for 30k more. I want to drive the turbo I love the interiors and drive feel in the Pani.
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Maybe I'm blind but where is the Turbo S?
right there

Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid in "The New Panamera E-Hybrid Models" section
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Porsche's factory time for the Turbo on the ring is 7:38, but they haven't released one for the S E-Hybrid.
This would be interesting to see how the extra power and torque evens out with the extra weight of the hybrid batteries.

On a straight line, the weight penalty seems negligible in this case.......but what about in turns (e.g. Nurburgring)

We'll wait-and-see.....
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