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      03-27-2019, 07:03 PM   #45
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Those of you who are having issues with the V2 tune do you all have m5s? If so what year is your m5?

Is anyone having issues with the tune on their m6?

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Mines a 2013 with 27k miles.
So no issues with 2014's on up? Haven't installed v2 yet but don't want issues as what's being discussed.
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Those of you who are having issues with the V2 tune do you all have m5s? If so what year is your m5?

Is anyone having issues with the tune on their m6?

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Mines a 2013 with 27k miles.
So no issues with 2014's on up? Haven't installed v2 yet but don't want issues as what's being discussed.
Ya so far it's seems most people having these issues own a 2013 m5 but hopefully more will chime in if they are having issues so we can get a solution. I'm hoping I should be ok as I have an m6 but it's also a '13 so we'll see.
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Ya so far it's seems most people having these issues own a 2013 m5 but hopefully more will chime in if they are having issues so we can get a solution. I'm hoping I should be ok as I have an m6 but it's also a '13 so we'll see.
I updated my fuel pump to the new LCI version and still same issue. Couple weeks ago I took my car into dealer on stock tune to get my injectors checked and everything is ok according to them.
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Mine is a 2014. I still haven't had the time to pull the code.
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I have a 2016 M5 and have moved back to the V1.2 as I prefer it, I don't feel that the V2 performs as well as the V1.2

Maybe its just subjective but I have lost faith in V2

When I put the car on a Dyno in the UK it produced 708bhp and 640ft/lbs at the crank which is good enough for me (V1.2)
I did the same thing , I only had the V2 for one day and went back the next day. I thought it felt slower too.
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I have a 2016 M5 and have moved back to the V1.2 as I prefer it, I don't feel that the V2 performs as well as the V1.2

Maybe its just subjective but I have lost faith in V2

When I put the car on a Dyno in the UK it produced 708bhp and 640ft/lbs at the crank which is good enough for me (V1.2)
I did the same thing , I only had the V2 for one day and went back the next day. I thought it felt slower too.
Stupid question. Can you run the previous version if you never tuned to it? Basically asking can v2 also run the previous version?
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It was just one code:

P00BE Mass or Volume Air Flow "B" Circuit Range/Performance - Air Flow Too Low

I have stock everything (including air filters) except exhaust valves open (exhaustmeister) and removed the carbon filter delete. These MAFs are not really serviceable as they encased in plastic. I did spray both down with MAF cleaner and cleared the code. I'll see if it comes back. I will also see how the idle is next time I start it up...I'm letting the sensors sit to make sure they are dry.
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Those of you who are having issues with the V2 tune do you all have m5s? If so what year is your m5?

Is anyone having issues with the tune on their m6?

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2013 m5 39k miles.
seems like it's only pre lci M5 that are having issues.
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seems like it's only pre lci M5 that are having issues.
Which is interesting because the m5 they are using for testing at OFT is a pre-Lci. Look at the headlight.
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2013 M6 DCT 49k miles

Never a problem on the stock tune with carbon filter delete (only mods)..
I got my OFT and flashed the V2 and went for a drive,,, as soon as I did WOT, I had the "drivetrain malfunction" and limited power. I limped back home and flashed to the OFT stock and would still get the problem with WOT.. have to stop car, turn off, re-start and would be OK. after a few times of this, the "engine light" just stayed on but I could still drive it just not WOT.
I ordered new NGK plugs (from this site's recommendation), gapped them at .0022' and new Bosche coils and put all that in Wednesday night... and car didn't do the malfunction... so I re-flashed back to V2 and no malfunctions so far... I've been WOT a few times with no issues so far (whew!!). also, the flashing from one tune to the other eliminates the "engine light", so I'm glad that's gone.
I do think I'm going to request the V1.2 just so I can switch between the 2 and see the differences for myself.
on a side note, is there somewhere easy to go to see how to find/work the functions like the burble, limit remover, etc..? or is that just part of the tune and all automatically there?

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Which is interesting because the m5 they are using for testing at OFT is a pre-Lci. Look at the headlight.
i believe their shop car is a 2014+ LCI model and not Pre lci.
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Mine is a 2014 and I had the same problem so I went back to V1.2.

V2 is completely different than V1.2 in my opinion. V2 is not slower at all just behaves differently.

V2 has a lot more power it feels like up top at higher RPM's. Car behaves more like a naturally aspirated M5 with less lag mid range.

V1.2 has more torque mid range so that's probably why we all felt it was slower than V2.

V2 in my opinion is for you if: 1) You play in the higher RPM's often 2) Want more traction mid range 3) Prefer less lag mid range

Just my 2 cents.
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sorry for my ignorance on this,,, is there a way to find the V1.2 tune to download to my OFT? my OFT only has the original stock tune, stock and v2 stage 1 at this point.
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Which is interesting because the m5 they are using for testing at OFT is a pre-Lci. Look at the headlight.
I believe that OFTs car is a Comp Pack 2015
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sorry for my ignorance on this,,, is there a way to find the V1.2 tune to download to my OFT? my OFT only has the original stock tune, stock and v2 stage 1 at this point.
You will have to ask OFT for it to be sent to you.
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Looking at the power curves that would be true, personally I don't like to have to take the car to the red line to get the power out of the engine I also felt that in 4th the car was weak compared to V1.2

I think the V1.2 is similar in its characteristics to other tuners maps and is based on tried and tested gains.

I feel that OFT have tried to improve the V1.2 and appreciate the rationale of what they have done but when users have issues and based on my own experiences don't have any confidence in V2.

For me its a case of 'if its not broken don't try and fix it'


I totally agree with what you are saying. In my case my issues stated with v1.2 93oct map. On 91 v1.2 my car drove fine with no issues. But as soon as I flashed v1.2 93oct I started to get my bogging/sputtering issues.
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Mine is a 2014 and I had the same problem so I went back to V1.2.

V2 is completely different than V1.2 in my opinion. V2 is not slower at all just behaves differently.

V2 has a lot more power it feels like up top at higher RPM's. Car behaves more like a naturally aspirated M5 with less lag mid range.

V1.2 has more torque mid range so that's probably why we all felt it was slower than V2.

V2 in my opinion is for you if: 1) You play in the higher RPM's often 2) Want more traction mid range 3) Prefer less lag mid range

Just my 2 cents.
Looking at the power curves that would be true, personally I don't like to have to take the car to the red line to get the power out of the engine I also felt that in 4th the car was weak compared to V1.2

I think the V1.2 is similar in its characteristics to other tuners maps and is based on tried and tested gains.

I feel that OFT have tried to improve the V1.2 and appreciate the rationale of what they have done but when users have issues and based on my own experiences don't have any confidence in V2.

For me its a case of 'if its not broken don't try and fix it'
Problem now is getting them to respond, those of you with v1.2 are lucky. Maybe I'll be able to get a response one of these months.... I guess in the meantime I'll keep sending resends daily.
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Mine is a 2014 and I had the same problem so I went back to V1.2.

V2 is completely different than V1.2 in my opinion. V2 is not slower at all just behaves differently.

V2 has a lot more power it feels like up top at higher RPM's. Car behaves more like a naturally aspirated M5 with less lag mid range.

V1.2 has more torque mid range so that's probably why we all felt it was slower than V2.

V2 in my opinion is for you if: 1) You play in the higher RPM's often 2) Want more traction mid range 3) Prefer less lag mid range

Just my 2 cents.
Looking at the power curves that would be true, personally I don't like to have to take the car to the red line to get the power out of the engine I also felt that in 4th the car was weak compared to V1.2

I think the V1.2 is similar in its characteristics to other tuners maps and is based on tried and tested gains.

I feel that OFT have tried to improve the V1.2 and appreciate the rationale of what they have done but when users have issues and based on my own experiences don't have any confidence in V2.

For me its a case of 'if its not broken don't try and fix it'
Problem now is getting them to respond, those of you with v1.2 are lucky. Maybe I'll be able to get a response one of these months.... I guess in the meantime I'll keep sending resends daily.
Exactly. They respond every other day at best and don't really provide anything other than 1-Liners and open ended questions. You would think they would want to respond to as quickly as possible so as to debunk all the negativity about v2. I might just sell mine and cut bait.
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Mine is a 2014 and I had the same problem so I went back to V1.2.

V2 is completely different than V1.2 in my opinion. V2 is not slower at all just behaves differently.

V2 has a lot more power it feels like up top at higher RPM's. Car behaves more like a naturally aspirated M5 with less lag mid range.

V1.2 has more torque mid range so that's probably why we all felt it was slower than V2.

V2 in my opinion is for you if: 1) You play in the higher RPM's often 2) Want more traction mid range 3) Prefer less lag mid range

Just my 2 cents.
Looking at the power curves that would be true, personally I don't like to have to take the car to the red line to get the power out of the engine I also felt that in 4th the car was weak compared to V1.2

I think the V1.2 is similar in its characteristics to other tuners maps and is based on tried and tested gains.

I feel that OFT have tried to improve the V1.2 and appreciate the rationale of what they have done but when users have issues and based on my own experiences don't have any confidence in V2.

For me its a case of 'if its not broken don't try and fix it'
Problem now is getting them to respond, those of you with v1.2 are lucky. Maybe I'll be able to get a response one of these months.... I guess in the meantime I'll keep sending resends daily.
Exactly. They respond every other day at best and don't really provide anything other than 1-Liners and open ended questions. You would think they would want to respond to as quickly as possible so as to debunk all the negativity about v2. I might just sell mine and cut bait.
I'm starting to think the same and go to BM3.
Reason I went with the OFT was because of the praise on Shiv and also their "great" customer service...
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I hate to use my first post to speak negatively on someone but I just want to make people aware that Vishnu Performance has low key moved from platform to platform messing with ECUs with halfhearted results.

Just do some google research on peoples experience with them flashing their Subarus
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Stick with proven companies
Eg ess or evolve

This isnt the sort of car u want to mess around on

A large tuning company and no replys to above is really bad
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