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Just one more rod bearing post...
All this talk about rod bearings failing and impending doom has my wallet shaking in its pocket...
Options are: 1. Proactively replace rod/piston/sleeve with forged components 2. Drive it like you stole it until something breaks and do a complete rebuild 3. Park it and only take it out for Sunday Strolls to church under 3k RPMS I'm in a 2013 with 50k miles. People are saying rod bearings should be replaced at 60k. This looks like way to big of a job for my skills and theres limited information on the type of product to replace it with and the costs associated. So - How much are we looking to spend to replace rod bearings/rods with forged rods with install? How much is this compared to just waiting until the engine goes and replacing it? |
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Are you sure these motors need new bearings after 60k miles?
Doesn't seem realistic. Forget sleeving the block though. Send it in to Cylinder Support System and have them make it a close deck block |
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Once I have replaced mine I will add photos of the process and the old bearings. |
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I've been sending out quote requests to well-rated shops around Texas (I would only want someone I trust has solid experience with BMWs to pull the engine out). So far, ABR in Houston said they haven't had any S63's come into the shop for rod bearings but mainly E9x... They do a lot of business in Houston and seem to be very enthusiastic about their work on BMW's. The tech himself said he daily's a 14 M5, has it tuned to ~800 hp, and just hit 75k miles - stock engine components, no knock no issues with bearings. This was a nice perspective... Replacing rod bearings is much cheaper labour than full on pistons/rods. The rod bearings can be replaced from underneath the engine, while rods/pistons need to have a complete engine pull and I was told prices start at $25k to pull the engine out and machine the cylinders for sleeves/pistons... Last edited by _BSMM5; 05-02-2019 at 08:47 AM.. |
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Ball park in the UK is £500 if doing the job yourself. I'll add the exact figures when everything has been ordered.
The engine wont have to come out for this job, remove the front sub frame and access will be easy. It's nice to hear the tech has an m5. Always fills you full of confidence. It works the same way when I park mine outside my garage. Customers are happy to leave their car and are full of confidence themselves when they see what I drive. |
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This forum would probably love you if you took pictures of the process showing the steps.. so far there is nothing of the sort. I have some wrench skills but not enough to comfortably open up the block.
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Getting to the bearings is a fair size job but doesn't require alot of skills. You just need some knowledge when it comes to the replacing the shells, precautions you should take, correct and clean assembly and checking clearances etc.
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S63 Stu Rod Bearings : Careful
upper shells are different then lower ones. and they have directions. and you need to buy once you remove yours and find out what color code you have.
It’s a 10-15 hour job and cleanliness must be fastidious ; and once finished you need to check for metal and then you must change oil again (after recommenced run-in period). It’s not just about changing the bearing shells . Cheers Bruce |
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ACL Race Rod Bearings and much better then the Bmw OEM Bearings :
https://fcp-engineering.com/en/bmw/1...1578h-025.html |
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Carbahn wants $9k USD for 8 of their forged pistons... and these guys want €749.00. Thats a large difference. https://fcp-engineering.com/en/s63b4...ting-rods.html |
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Advertised Price of Forged Conrod = Per Item
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That’s the price for a single item Not a complete set of Conrods ! cheers Bruce |
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i have never heard of bearing being an issue in our platform
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Theres plenty of posts and videos to suggest that it could be an issue. Just maybe kept on the quiet as some people have little car knowledge and just have the engines replaced under warranty. The E92 m3 scene is a little more car enthusiast/diy/ mechanic based. Spoke to a BMW specialist here in the UK that said up to now they haven't had to replace any but did say they have one coming in with an engine knock and they are sure it will be rod bearings.
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