ECU Tune

WickedBMW · 06-21-2018, 03:17 AM

Time has come for me to move on from piggy tune to ECU tune. Full disclosure, I have limited knowledge when it comes to tunes.

I’ve been doing a lot of research on different tunes, and I’ve narrowed it down to BPM, BM3, Active Autowerke and VF Engineering. Let me start by stating that I’m not chasing power as much as reliability of the tune and customer service. I’m looking for a somewhat conservative tune that adds power throughout the power band and not just above 3 or 4K RPMs. I’ve seen some comments about companies raising boost way past the limits of S63tu engines, which I’m trying to avoid. It would be greatly appreciated if you can share your experience with aforementioned tunes.

Mr. M6 · 06-21-2018, 05:45 AM

flash tune better than piggy, i done BM3 OTS Stage 2 and i like it, nice power and everything running good

here is the link to my topic.
http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1507664

Good luck

WickedBMW · 06-21-2018, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. M6

flash tune better than piggy, i done BM3 OTS Stage 2 and i like it, nice power and everything running good

here is the link to my topic.
http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1507664

Good luck

Stage 2 with 22 psi, was that intentional? I thought usually stage 2 pushes beyond safe limits of 23-24 psi.

apexlocator · 06-21-2018, 10:23 AM

22 psi is max you can do unless you're running jb4+bcm or upgraded to 3.5 bar MAP sensors.

I'll recommend MissionPerformance. I've been running his tune for 15k+ miles starting from stage 1 to stage 2. He is pretty conservative with the tune, unless you ask specifically to push it. Customer service is top shelf, but I will say he is a very busy guy. Be ready to potentially replace coils/plugs, etc. With such big power change.

WickedBMW · 06-21-2018, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by apexlocator

22 psi is max you can do unless you're running jb4+bcm or upgraded to 3.5 bar MAP sensors.

I'll recommend MissionPerformance. I've been running his tune for 15k+ miles starting from stage 1 to stage 2. He is pretty conservative with the tune, unless you ask specifically to push it. Customer service is top shelf, but I will say he is a very busy guy. Be ready to potentially replace coils/plugs, etc. With such big power change.

Much appreciated for that bit of information.

JRC1 · 06-21-2018, 12:40 PM

Ill put my vote in for BPM Sport. Mike Benvo is the man. Answers every question and tailors tunes to customers individual needs. Ive had my stage 2 tune of his in for over 5k fun and pain free miles!

ykjones · 06-21-2018, 03:29 PM

I've been extremely happy with my VF ENGINEERING HEX Stage 1 tune. My beast is my daily driver with 2 car seats in the back for taking the kids everywhere. Love the smooth daily drivability. Gets after it so nice when I get to go play on the twisties with the crew. Great support and reliability with VF Engineering too. Since install in Dec, absolute zero issues. Had nothing but problems previously with brand new Dinan Stage 2 installed at BMW dealership. Couldn't be happier with the flash tune and installed it in my garage in 20 min as you get your performance tune emailed to you.

WickedBMW · 06-21-2018, 06:03 PM

Do any of the these tunes offer free upgrades if there is a change in a tune perimeters?

Mr. M6 · 06-23-2018, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by WickedBMW

Do any of the these tunes offer free upgrades if there is a change in a tune perimeters?

on BM3 OTS MAPS you will see UPDATE is there, you just flash the new map again...

apsuard · 06-23-2018, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by JRC1

Ill put my vote in for BPM Sport. Mike Benvo is the man. Answers every question and tailors tunes to customers individual needs. Ive had my stage 2 tune of his in for over 5k fun and pain free miles!

Another vote for BPM. Mike is great, customer support is top notch, flashing is easy, and stage 2 power is impressive.

Aceway · 06-26-2018, 09:47 AM

If you're going stage 2 ecu tune, keep in mind your stock clutch will probably start slipping after a little time. Have BPM stage 2 and clutch started slipping after a week or two. Totally worth it though because the car is a completely different animal now.

WickedBMW · 06-27-2018, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Birrcrin

If you're going stage 2 ecu tune, keep in mind your stock clutch will probably start slipping after a little time. Have BPM stage 2 and clutch started slipping after a week or two. Totally worth it though because the car is a completely different animal now.

I’m strategically buy things like axles, driveshaft and etc, so when my warranty expires all I would have to do is just add a tune. I already fortified diff mount. This weekend I’m installing AMS catted DPs and KW HAS kit. In about two weeks I’ll be installing SSP clutch with heavy duty transmission cooler.

tonydat1 · 06-27-2018, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by WickedBMW

I’m strategically buy things like axles, driveshaft and etc, so when my warranty expires all I would have to do is just add a tune. I already fortified diff mount. This weekend I’m installing AMS catted DPs and KW HAS kit. In about two weeks I’ll be installing SSP clutch with heavy duty transmission cooler.

Which differential mount did you get ?

WickedBMW · 06-27-2018, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tonydat1

Which differential mount did you get ?

I just fortified OEM. I took it to a fabrication shop, and the fortified it for me. I can make you one for $400 shipped.

TLK · 07-06-2018, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by WickedBMW

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonydat1

Which differential mount did you get ?

I just fortified OEM. I took it to a fabrication shop, and the fortified it for me. I can make you one for $400 shipped.

Any pictures?

WickedBMW · 07-06-2018, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TLK

Any pictures?

http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1499901

I modeled it using these pictures.

induc916 · 07-21-2018, 09:37 AM

So WickedBMW which tune did you go with?

WickedBMW · 07-21-2018, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by induc916

So WickedBMW which tune did you go with?

As of today, I set my mind on BPM tune

TheHouseWon · 07-22-2018, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by WickedBMW

As of today, I set my mind on BPM tune

good choice, let us know how it feels once it's loaded

WickedBMW · 07-22-2018, 08:46 PM

Will do

Stück · 07-22-2018, 09:28 PM

Extremely happy with my Mission Performance Stage 2. Outstanding performance on pump 93 octane.

21psi by 2600rpm, slowing climbing to 23.5si by redline. 6-8 degrees of timing advance through most of the RPM band.

On E30-E35 net blend it gets even better, and timing holds steady with 10-12 degrees of advance.

Brand new 305 P4S feeling the pain.

WickedBMW · 07-22-2018, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Stück

Extremely happy with my Mission Performance Stage 2. Outstanding performance on pump 93 octane.

21psi by 2600rpm, slowing climbing to 23.5si by redline. 6-8 degrees of timing advance through most of the RPM band.

On E30-E35 net blend it gets even better, and timing holds steady with 10-12 degrees of advance.

Brand new 305 P4S feeling the pain.

What I’m afraid of is a long term impact on a engine by mixing stuff and raising too much boost.

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WickedBMW Major 613 Rep 1,124 Posts Drives: 2021 BMW M3 MT Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: BIMMERPOST.com iTrader: (5)	ECU Tune Time has come for me to move on from piggy tune to ECU tune. Full disclosure, I have limited knowledge when it comes to tunes. I’ve been doing a lot of research on different tunes, and I’ve narrowed it down to BPM, BM3, Active Autowerke and VF Engineering. Let me start by stating that I’m not chasing power as much as reliability of the tune and customer service. I’m looking for a somewhat conservative tune that adds power throughout the power band and not just above 3 or 4K RPMs. I’ve seen some comments about companies raising boost way past the limits of S63tu engines, which I’m trying to avoid. It would be greatly appreciated if you can share your experience with aforementioned tunes. Last edited by WickedBMW; 07-21-2018 at 10:07 AM..
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apexlocator Captain 243 Rep 881 Posts Drives: 2014 M5 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: socal iTrader: (1)	22 psi is max you can do unless you're running jb4+bcm or upgraded to 3.5 bar MAP sensors. I'll recommend MissionPerformance. I've been running his tune for 15k+ miles starting from stage 1 to stage 2. He is pretty conservative with the tune, unless you ask specifically to push it. Customer service is top shelf, but I will say he is a very busy guy. Be ready to potentially replace coils/plugs, etc. With such big power change.
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JRC1 Enlisted Member 12 Rep 32 Posts Drives: 2013 M5 Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Snohomish, Wa iTrader: (0)	Ill put my vote in for BPM Sport. Mike Benvo is the man. Answers every question and tailors tunes to customers individual needs. Ive had my stage 2 tune of his in for over 5k fun and pain free miles!
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ykjones Master Gunnery Sergeant 72 Rep 220 Posts Drives: 2013 F10 M5 Signapore Gray Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Kalispell, MT iTrader: (0)	I've been extremely happy with my VF ENGINEERING HEX Stage 1 tune. My beast is my daily driver with 2 car seats in the back for taking the kids everywhere. Love the smooth daily drivability. Gets after it so nice when I get to go play on the twisties with the crew. Great support and reliability with VF Engineering too. Since install in Dec, absolute zero issues. Had nothing but problems previously with brand new Dinan Stage 2 installed at BMW dealership. Couldn't be happier with the flash tune and installed it in my garage in 20 min as you get your performance tune emailed to you. __________________ VF Engineering Hex Stage 1, RPI GTM Black edition, KW HAS, Dinan sway bars, Matt Schnell spacers, IND black chrome, M Performance rear spoiler, M Performance rear diffuser, Michelin Pilot Sport 4S's, ESS stainless steel brake lines, EBC Red Stuff ceramic pads, BMC air filters, charcoal filter delete, sprint booster, V1w/Blendmount, BIM coding all options, Pedal Haus pedals, Formula One Pinnacle Tint
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WickedBMW Major 613 Rep 1,124 Posts Drives: 2021 BMW M3 MT Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: BIMMERPOST.com iTrader: (5)	Do any of the these tunes offer free upgrades if there is a change in a tune perimeters?
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Aceway Captain 455 Rep 875 Posts Drives: E82 135i / F25 28i Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: SoCal iTrader: (2)	If you're going stage 2 ecu tune, keep in mind your stock clutch will probably start slipping after a little time. Have BPM stage 2 and clutch started slipping after a week or two. Totally worth it though because the car is a completely different animal now.
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Stück Major 801 Rep 1,214 Posts Drives: F15 X5, E46 330i, R56 Mini.S Join Date: May 2016 Location: Houston, TX iTrader: (4)	Extremely happy with my Mission Performance Stage 2. Outstanding performance on pump 93 octane. 21psi by 2600rpm, slowing climbing to 23.5si by redline. 6-8 degrees of timing advance through most of the RPM band. On E30-E35 net blend it gets even better, and timing holds steady with 10-12 degrees of advance. Brand new 305 P4S feeling the pain.
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