Rumors: M5/M6 returning to V10, G31 M5 Touring and X1 M

[aussiem3]

May be it's true ... I think the current /// line up is lacking a bit of soul

[mrdirosa]

M5 Touring!

Sign me up!

-Michael

[swifty]

I'm pretty sure more v8s and v10s are gonna pop up ala the laFerrari & P1 hybrid mode. An EV range of 40miles along with lighter chassis made with carbon fiber should do the trick.

[MrSmoothEM3]

Originally Posted by Ryan///M

OMG!!! I pray to God that BMW will make a Naturally Aspirated ///M V10.!!

+1

[GMe90]

Bring back the NA engines. Turbos are so boring.

[RPiM5]

So this finally got some attention from Bimmerpost I see. Lol!

[Pure]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

The E92 M3 GTS was initially offered to BMW North America at the same time as the 1er M Coupe but they rejected on the grounds that no one would buy such a car without its luxuries. Something BMW still comes up against in the US Market today. In which federalisation cost is not viable if only to sell only a few units.

I have no idea if the M4 GTS will come to the USA or remain Europe and Asia only, I do know that a strategy exists for the car of which all details and schematics are not fully known just rumours still waiting to be confirmed along with the next M5/M6 returning to an all new V10, the X1 M with 330PS and and the addition of a G31 M5 Touring due to strong sales of the Audi RS6 Avant in Continental Europe.

Scott 26
I would be surprised if BMW to return with a new V10 engine.
I think a V10 engine, instead a great need to provide a new BMW V8 engine displacement or different, lighter and less polluting than 4.4 liters is not necessary. I propose a new 3.8-liter V8 or 4.0-liter twin turbo technology with racing details like a lighter intake manifold, lighter and craft pistons, a more efficient intercooler, and generally more work with innovative parts for that engine . The powers that could be exploited from 450 HP to 650 HP versions M. Ideally, BMW offers the V8 twin-turbo 4.0 lt to compete more directly with M-Benz and Audi already offers an engine with these features. Simple as this is the most optimal levels of a V8 engine are reached. 4.0-liter, spend less oil than a 4.4 or a 4.8 liter is lighter.

[Doctor///M]

Originally Posted by RPiM5

So this finally got some attention from Bimmerpost I see. Lol!

Yeah, surprised this didn't happen sooner given the content and source!

[ChiTownM]

Originally Posted by mrdirosa

M5 Touring!

Sign me up!

-Michael

Me too. Then I can ditch the x5m.

[lasovan]

Great news! V10 means good noise! M8 V10tt =

[Tonymiabmw]

X1 M yuck

[TheBingoBalls]

Highly doubt a N/A V10. BMW put so much emphasis on turbocharging their cars I find it highly unlikely they'll resort back to N/A especially since the current engine is generally praised in it's application. Add the fact that each year, regulations become stricter N/A would be a pipe dream at this point.

[boramkiv]

Hmmm,
I'll tell myself this can be all true.
Why?
The Efficient Dynamics program has just shifted over to the "i" series only.

[MTrezzz]

If BMW decides to put back the V10 on the M5/M6, count me in on the next order list!!

[ASAP]

No... reworked s63tu. An NA V10 makes almost no sense in the lineup with its power/tq characteristics. A TTv10... absolutely forget about it.

[VCP]

BS

[Blackraven]

It would take a lot of balls for BMW to return to a 10-cylinder engine (especially when you have the dips**ts such as Greenpeace, eco-terrorists as well as hippie politicians and anti-car legislators)

But kudos to BMW if they make a 10 cylinder engine happen.

But holy sh*t, am I hearing the rumor right?

possible introduction of G31 M5 Touring

HOLY SH*T........I would love to see the return of the M5 estate station wagon.

Man, it's been years since we last saw something like this.....





I WANT THAT M5 STATION WAGON ONCE AGAIN!!!

[BigMacSmallFries]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

The E92 M3 GTS was initially offered to BMW North America at the same time as the 1er M Coupe but they rejected on the grounds that no one would buy such a car without its luxuries. Something BMW still comes up against in the US Market today. In which federalisation cost is not viable if only to sell only a few units.

I have no idea if the M4 GTS will come to the USA or remain Europe and Asia only, I do know that a strategy exists for the car of which all details and schematics are not fully known just rumours still waiting to be confirmed along with the next M5/M6 returning to an all new V10, the X1 M with 330PS and and the addition of a G31 M5 Touring due to strong sales of the Audi RS6 Avant in Continental Europe.

There's zero chance of a v10 M5. I don't know why you're even posting that when you know that with the 2020 European regulations it's not a possibility.

[ihc95]

I just want the new M5 to be smaller and weigh 500lbs less than it does right now.

[hwelvaar]

Originally Posted by ihc95

I just want the new M5 to be smaller and weigh 500lbs less than it does right now.

I present you: F80 M3

[hwelvaar]

Originally Posted by BigMacSmallFries

There's zero chance of a v10 M5. I don't know why you're even posting that when you know that with the 2020 European regulations it's not a possibility.

Indeed. Have to see it to believe it.

[Matski]

I can see a V10 happening, I could even just about see a naturally aspirated one happen.

Yes turbo-charging is being used now to get the required output vs. economy/emissions, but --- if you put less load on the engine in the first place, then you'll cut the emissions and consumption anyway, and pushing forward with things like project-i is ABSOLUTELY about this idea... a hybrid supplimented system requires less effort from the engine, and lighter body (this will be a G-series engine, not the partially lighter F-series) will require less effort from the engine.

The Fleet average required to meet legislation is being maintained by these new smaller three cylinder vehicles so many here like to bitch about. So the next gen M engines can perhaps afford to distance themselves from the core range a little more again.

This is the future people, don't judge it by the S85, that tech is probably 20 years old by the time a next-gen V10 hits the market.

Will it definitely happen... I don't know, but you have to think that all the development and ground work BMW has been doing with project-i is going to start to pay dividends once this transitional phase is over. E is the past, F is the transitional phase, G is the future... and the future could be a smaller displacement 400hp V10, with 150hp of power on tap from e-motors, in a car that weighs somewhere between an E39 M5 and an E60 M5.


As for the X1M, M engineers then I assume will be doing what they can with the UKL platform... interesting.