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      10-14-2018, 04:16 AM   #23
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F-Type, by a country mile.

Looks & sounds way better. 911 has better handling dynamics but that's about it. Unless you're Randy Pobst & tracking your car everyday go for the F-Type. It'll keep you happier on a daily basis where it matters most - on the street.
LOL sounds better than a gt3, ok there...
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      10-14-2018, 05:19 AM   #24
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LOL sounds better than a gt3, ok there...
Agreed, I'd take the glorious noise of the flat six over the obnoxious exhaust on the F Type R every day of the week.

Don't get me wrong, the Jaguar sounds hilarious at first but starts to feel silly and antisocial really quickly.
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Recently cross shopped these cars: Ftype is a good looking pig. A pig in that for its size, its waaaaaay too heavy for someone like me who likes toss-able cars.

991.1 is a fantastic car, but a bit too GT for our tastes (my wife drives the sports cars too), so when all was said and done we ended up with a 981 GTS as its just such a playful mid engined sports car.

The 991 was a bit sterile for back road driving: still stupid fast if pushed but lacked that feel if you like smaller cars compared to a 981. If the F type drove like a 981 we'd have a different discussion. If you driving is a bit more highway/high speed the 991 is likely a better ride since: GT car.

If getting a 991 be sure you like the seats and it has a sports exhaust IMHO. Base seats are horrible for normal sized folks: fits wider people. The PSE is just a giggle fest when turned on.

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Recently cross shopped these cars: Ftype is a good looking pig. A pig in that for its size, its waaaaaay too heavy for someone like me who likes toss-able cars.

991.1 is a fantastic car, but a bit too GT for our tastes (my wife drives the sports cars too), so when all was said and done we ended up with a 981 GTS as its just such a playful mid engined sports car.

The 991 was a bit sterile for back road driving: still stupid fast if pushed but lacked that feel if you like smaller cars compared to a 981. If the F type drove like a 981 we'd have a different discussion. If you driving is a bit more highway/high speed the 991 is likely a better ride since: GT car.

If getting a 991 be sure you like the seats and it has a sports exhaust IMHO. Base seats are horrible for normal sized folks: fits wider people. The PSE is just a giggle fest when turned on.

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I know what you mean, before ordered my second 981S, I test drove a 991 (non-S) and i found it less engaging than my 981S

I recently test drove a 981GTS looking to bring back that loving feeling and I found it torqueless now that I am used to the b58

the 991S has a lot more torque I know, but it can't compare to the torque of the f type

so yeah still utterly confused

the practical side of me says 991S (as most replies to this thread recommend), but the ftype made me smile like a child..
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Agreed, I'd take the glorious noise of the flat six over the obnoxious exhaust on the F Type R every day of the week.

Don't get me wrong, the Jaguar sounds hilarious at first but starts to feel silly and antisocial really quickly.
hmm I do have to admit I do wonder about the longevity of the fun in the jag...
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F-Type, by a country mile.

Looks & sounds way better. 911 has better handling dynamics but that's about it. Unless you're Randy Pobst & tracking your car everyday go for the F-Type. It'll keep you happier on a daily basis where it matters most - on the street.
I do love torque and I can not lie and the ftype REALLY delivers in that area...the short bursts of speed that torque offers are probably the most accessible fun in an urban area like where I am...
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      10-14-2018, 12:27 PM   #29
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Have you ever driven one? The 991S with an xpipe exhaust is incredible.

OP - Porsche and itís not even close. Youíll get the most bang for your buck with a 2012-2013 though. Same car as a 16 but will be at the lower end of 991 values so it wonít depreciate as much. I bought mine for $58k in 2016 and sold it for $67k in March. That will never happen with a Jaguar.
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Porsche all day, no contest...
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the ftype made me smile like a child..
This is the only thing that matters. Get what you want.
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the ftype made me smile like a child..
This is the only thing that matters. Get what you want.
Yeah, I agree. I have the totally opposite opinion of which car makes me smile, but despite that I would say you should absolutely get the car that excites you
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Thatís a tough one. The 911 is just very good all around. The F Type maybe has a little more luxury, unpredictability and one of the best exhaust notes youíll ever hear. Iíve never driven an R (have heard a number of them) but did drive a F Type S and almost bought it just because of how it sounded.
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I know what you mean, before ordered my second 981S, I test drove a 991 (non-S) and i found it less engaging than my 981S

I recently test drove a 981GTS looking to bring back that loving feeling and I found it torqueless now that I am used to the b58

the 991S has a lot more torque I know, but it can't compare to the torque of the f type

so yeah still utterly confused

the practical side of me says 991S (as most replies to this thread recommend), but the ftype made me smile like a child..
You need a 991.2 then: the new turbo engines are so well balanced. A 991.2 C2 is a beast, no S required.

The 718 is similar in that the 2.5T for the S is a sea of torque if you can get past the wet fart exhaust note. My dollar cannot get past it and the flat 6 sings instead.

My other car is a 335d, so I have the other end of the spectrum of addictive twist at low RPM, but for sports cars I want to rev it, feel it and hopefully not be too illegal. The 3.4 is arguable too much for the cayman. A 3.0 would be perfect

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Get the F-Type. You can always buy a Porsche later in life. The P-car owners bless them, will take good care and keep'em running in great condition.
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Porsche, without a doubt. Shouldn't even need to ask this question.
This. It's an S too so the power gap isn't all that big.
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the practical side of me says 991S (as most replies to this thread recommend), but the ftype made me smile like a child..
Then it's easy, get the jag.

Done.
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As someone who has driven several versions of both cars in question, I will say it's quite possibly one of the hardest between-two-cars decision one could have to make.

Now to answer the question. The 911 is clearly the superior car. It is more engaging, has a superior chassis along with steering, brakes, and handling. It's more precise, more communicative, and definitely the better of the two to wring out down a twisty backroad. If you have kids, the back seat could even be a big point. It will definitely be more reliable, and it will definitely hold it's value better, at least for the immediate future- 3-5ish years.

That said, and something you pointed out, no 991 short of a GT car even begins to approach the charm and character of a V8 F Type. The engine is glorious, with Herculean power and a sound to wake the dead. I honestly think aside from lack of a back seat, it's no less practical, and no harder to daily drive. It's quite a comfortable car, and though visibility isn't as good as a 911, it's a very easily managed car in traffic and whatnot. Though the interior definitely leaves some to be desired, I think the dead sexy body it's wrapped up in makes up for it. Also, though it may have inferior driving dynamics, I think it's actually more fun on the street in and urban area because of the engine and power delivery. I personally adore the F Type, and like you said, I've never emerged from driving a V8 one without a huge grin plastered on my face.

At the end of the day, unless the rear seats were a major factor, I don't think I could buy a 911 S over an F Type. Not a PDK car, anyway. If it were a perfectly spec'd manual, there might be more contest. My pick of F Types would honestly be an earlier RWD convertible though.

Ultimately, you can't go wrong either way. Just enjoy whatever you end up buying every chance you get!
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I have an F-Type as well as a few 991s. Between those two choices, get the Jag.
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I have an F-Type as well as a few 991s. Between those two choices, get the Jag.
well sound like you would know

but why the jag?
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