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The internet has an answer for almost everything. Yet ask it how many households in the US currently could support at-home EV charging, and Mr Google has no definitive answer. I earlier stated I think it is just 45%. After more research I think it's more like 30%.
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No manufacturer has yet introduced a convertible in the form of the 3-series or Mustang/Camero; sort of a telltale for me. Google for convertible EV and you get a bunch of vaporwear.
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07-13-2023, 07:06 AM | #2760 |
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And it still is $50K! If it was $30K maybe you'd go first-adopter with it, but it's no less expensive than a real manufacturer's EV.
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07-13-2023, 07:11 AM | #2761 |
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What's crazy is that I sat inside this EV a few months ago in their Santa Monica showroom... and ironically, it had a far better interior than a Tesla.
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07-13-2023, 08:41 AM | #2763 |
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why do so many broke people have Tesla's now. Like they are the new nissan altima in philly. Also some people have like 2-3 suv Teslas
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07-13-2023, 09:02 AM | #2764 |
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It just goes to show the big hurdle in EV pricing is the battery cost. And everyone thinks the magic solid-state battery will fix that problem. It won't.
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We now come to the touchy subject if your EV is in a crash and it's not looking good.
For starters no one can touch it until an EV breakdown expert neutralises it then repairers won't know what to do with it and most likely it will be a write off. |
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07-13-2023, 01:26 PM | #2767 | |
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07-13-2023, 04:34 PM | #2768 |
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So my tax dollars are used to provide incentives for people to buy EV's.
My fuel taxes are use to maintain the roads that have higher wear due to the increased weight of EV's. My insurance premiums will rise because damaged EV's are often totaled due to problems and cost of repairing them. I'm not feeling the whole green thing. |
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I think it’s pretty clear, the small demographic of those early adopters is dwindling. Characteristics of said demographic (not all-or-none, but all are traits): able to afford an EV, able to charge said EV at home, willing to sacrifice some usability. From talking to lots of people in the industry (in which I also work), if you don’t meet at least two of these criteria, you likely aren’t buying EVs.
Edit: I should add to the list you also keep an ICE car in the fleet. |
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07-14-2023, 08:16 AM | #2771 |
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It would make a lot of sense for us to have an EV and an ICE (2 daily driver household wife/me), charge the EV at home all the time, drive EV 70% of total miles. In our case the benefit would be drastically cutting refueling time (just plug in twice a week), far lower amount of maintenance (recently had oil, engine air filter, diff. fluid, transmission fluid, coolant all changed in my ICE), brakes last far longer, very simple powertrain, and reduced fuel cost.
For all of the "never work for "X", people" - ok great, neither will a sedan. I have a weekend fun car, most of my driving is local, stop light to stop light, commuting and I am fine with an EV. Largest hurdle right now is the initial cost but the differential between an ICE and EV keeps getting smaller.
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