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      11-30-2014, 07:13 AM   #1
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      11-30-2014, 03:37 PM   #2
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      12-03-2014, 10:10 AM   #3
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Well I will say its worth watching...overall a great M5
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      12-03-2014, 10:28 AM   #4
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That's guy should do more reviews videos.
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Interesting review........although it is kinda hard to deal with the Dutch accent which sounds very strong and makes it sounds like he wants to spit or something (no offense to people from the Netherlands or in Belgium)

Anyways, the review is spot on. Fastest production M5, great interior, etc.

I do agree on one downside that the reviewer mentioned at the end:
The exhaust on this car is OK..........but not great or fantastic

The only way to make the exhaust sound exciting is either purchasing the BMW-Akra MPE system or by going through aftermarket exhaust system.

Stock base exhaust just doesn't cut it imho

The reviewer was right that BMW should ask MB and Audi on how their turbo V8s produce a more exciting exhaust sound (on their basic OEM exhaust systems).....
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      12-03-2014, 12:08 PM   #7
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Car looks amazing! "The interior is porn"
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      12-03-2014, 02:01 PM   #8
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Interesting review........although it is kinda hard to deal with the Dutch accent which sounds very strong and makes it sounds like he wants to spit or something (no offense to people from the Netherlands or in Belgium)

Anyways, the review is spot on. Fastest production M5, great interior, etc.

I do agree on one downside that the reviewer mentioned at the end:
The exhaust on this car is OK..........but not great or fantastic

The only way to make the exhaust sound exciting is either purchasing the BMW-Akra MPE system or by going through aftermarket exhaust system.

Stock base exhaust just doesn't cut it imho

The reviewer was right that BMW should ask MB and Audi on how their turbo V8s produce a more exciting exhaust sound (on their basic OEM exhaust systems).....
It's a nice thought, but BMW has adopted the MB/Porsche option you to death scheme. I remember when I bought my 05 4.8is, there was one or two options. I think it was comfort seats and something with the nav, and then the aero kit from the BMW accessories department which I had to have installed on my own accord. The E60 M5 was similar in that respect as well. The car was around 90K Base and there were very few options that involved creature comforts, nothing at all with performance. During that period the AMG models even had the LSD as an option if I remember correctly.

Performance packages and all that nonsense was more of a reason to stick with BMW because they gave you mostly everything included under the Base price. Now after 6 more BMW's over the last few years and even my 13 M5 to my 14 M5, the option list just keeps growing. It went from 108k to almost 140k right around the LCI with every option!!! WTF. It's gotten to the point where you really aren't given much in the base model considering this is a "luxury business sedan" as the M division CEO had named it while under development.

Porsche 911's I can see as the exception unless you go for a Panamera whereby I think you might need to get your head examined to purchase one of those that isn't slightly used when the car comes out to close to 200k or more for a turbo S. Pretty damn nuts if you ask me, but there in lies the option scheme. Funny thing is that the options are important to their margins, but for the M cars and AMG's alike, I think its rather done in poor taste and shouldn't be so for the target market. I can understand the Carbon Ceramic Breaks, B&O stereo, and maybe even the carbon fiber accessories for the purposes of aesthetics. But having all these other features that each customer knowingly desires puts the brand back a few steps in progress.

This is why you won't see an exhaust system that sounds amazing as standard because well.... it would be bad for business lol. You might even see MB and Audi soon copy bmw in this respect. There's a huge amount of money to be made in the aftermarket business and they are slowly moving into the territory. Look at how they screwed everyone over with the new BOSCH ECU's! Dinan spent millions trying to crack the damn thing and in the end they needed to use a piggy back like everyone else. BMW is also trying to protect their CPO program and having people turn in cars that had JB4's and other tunes when their leases were up probably cost them a ton of money to fix and cut into those margins as well.

This has become more of a rant than anything now so I'll just sum it up. BMW doesn't care, more and more features we take for granted will become options, the cars will keep going up in price, more things will rattle, shake and squeak, and in the end, we will keep on buying them because they are still amazing machines. But I'm done with them if they create a catalog like Porsche does where the damn steering wheel may become an option soon.
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If the stock exhaust would be good/ loud enough, who would buy the MPE one? It's a business case here!
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      12-03-2014, 02:39 PM   #10
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Unlike this guy, I'd take the M5 over an M3/M4 any day of the week.
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To the poster ranting above, M has become boring and run of the mill IMHO. M now stands for Money and Marketing, not for enthusiast cars anymore. Disappointed since I am also a lifelong fanatic of the brand.
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      12-03-2014, 06:21 PM   #12
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That's guy should do more reviews videos.
He does, he's a presentor of Autoblog.nl, see the channel for more
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To the poster ranting above, M has become boring and run of the mill IMHO. M now stands for Money and Marketing, not for enthusiast cars anymore. Disappointed since I am also a lifelong fanatic of the brand.
Tis a shame indeed.
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      12-03-2014, 08:04 PM   #14
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You're joking, right?
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      12-03-2014, 08:07 PM   #15
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Though do not understand German, I watched the video about the BMW Hallowed garage and enjoyed it but this guy german is full of khah, bkhakh, tekh, khitz, ditzkh ... That's all I heard from him
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Though do not understand German, I watched the video about the BMW Hallowed garage and enjoyed it but this guy german is full of khah, bkhakh, tekh, khitz, ditzkh ... That's all I heard from him
lol, this guy is speaking Dutch! That's also why it sounds so nasal and weird
Flamish would be the same language but more German sounding at times. (Or as we like to call it, dutch without the accent )

To be honest I seldomly enjoy reviews from this channel... They are notoriously pro-VAG (well just pro-money I guess) when selecting items to post and giving comments in videos. So much that it becomes annoying to read/watch at times.
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It's a nice thought, but BMW has adopted the MB/Porsche option you to death scheme. I remember when I bought my 05 4.8is, there was one or two options. I think it was comfort seats and something with the nav, and then the aero kit from the BMW accessories department which I had to have installed on my own accord.
Only one or two options available on an 05 X5? I don't think so. My 05 330i could be optioned with sport, performance, premium, and cold weather packages, navigation, bluetooth, alarm, HK stereo, leather, pleather, or Alcantara, wheel size options, and more, and your X5 was likely no different. Things were exactly the same as they are now, except that there's so much more technology available now that if everything like self parking, LED lights, Nav, heads up display, active cruise, CCB's, etc. was all standard, the car would be way too expensive.

If you look objectively at what you get for your money, Audi, BMW, and Mercedes are all within the same ball park, and nowhere near Porsche when it comes to options inflation.
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Only one or two options available on an 05 X5? I don't think so. My 05 330i could be optioned with sport, performance, premium, and cold weather packages, navigation, bluetooth, alarm, HK stereo, leather, pleather, or Alcantara, wheel size options, and more, and your X5 was likely no different. Things were exactly the same as they are now, except that there's so much more technology available now that if everything like self parking, LED lights, Nav, heads up display, active cruise, CCB's, etc. was all standard, the car would be way too expensive.

If you look objectively at what you get for your money, Audi, BMW, and Mercedes are all within the same ball park, and nowhere near Porsche when it comes to options inflation.
Buddy, I have a 4.8is, it was developed in part by the M division hence forth why it had the same instrument cluster as the e39 M5. I'm talking M models here and the 4.8is fits into that category to some respect. At that time there weren't any damn options for it. So yes, I not only think so, I know so. Ordered it in Black Sapphire metallic and it was my first build. The M cars at one point used to give you so much in the base price and that's what changed. I don't have any experience with any other models at that time because that was my first BMW and after that I was only interested in the M cars. Anyone who bought an x5 4.8is will tell you the same, and I still have the damn thing in the garage lol. Again, not talking about anything but the M cars! My 09 e92 M3 didn't have a competition package option or any kind of package during that year. Navigation, DCT, Stereo, leather, damper control, I even bought the stupid M performance exhaust when it came out because I had no prior experience with any performance type modifications, learned my lesson. All I'm saying is that its getting worse and worse and they can easily put a few more options in the car within a reasonable price range. They should also just come out with everything right away instead of waiting so long to introduce all these packages which clearly make the car better. I asked if they could retrofit the comp package on my 13 but no lol, then had to get the 14 with it.
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You're joking, right?
+1

I don't quite like the way he review the car. I am looking for a review like what Chris Harris does!
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I love the colour description at the 2:07 mark ...
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Saw this car in person in dealer showroom. Pictures don't do it justice, car is sick. Too bad dealer markups are astronomical on these.
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