[dbs600]

Other than clear coating an entire panel, is there any way to permanently remove swirl mark holograms caused by a power buffer wheel?

The detailer at the dealership says glaze, but I've researched same and it seems to be temporary!?

[ibimmer954]

A detailer with the appropriate power tools. It has to be buffed out.

Here a kit: PC 7424-XP Starter kit

Or a higher quality tool starter kit: Flex 3401 Kit

Add some polish and read up on the detailer's forums. I purchased a Flex, did some research, and ended up with great results. Or you can save yourself time and go to a professional. But good pros can be hard to find.

[dbs600]

Thank you for your informative reply!

Does anyone know of a very good detailer near the Five Towns (Hewlett, Woodmere, Cedarhurst, Lawrence, etc.) on Long Island?

[ceb]

Dealers and bodyshops are notoriously clueless about proper paint care.

Go here to find a detailer.

[dbs600]

Will do!

[dbs600]

Thank you MERCSUk153, I'll check the site out now!

[dbs600]

Passed by a body shop and turned around to see what they would recommend. Said they would wet sand the areas for $200. I'm not saying I'm going to necessarily go this route, but any comments on wet sanding to remove swirl marks? I believe wet sanding to remove 'fish eyes' is what caused this in the first place...

[ceb]

Body shops and dealers are clueless when it comes to paint care. Find a detailer from one of the sources posted or here and ask them.

We can't help you if you don't want to take our advice.

[dbs600]

Thanks ceb; it's not that I don't want to take your advice; I do, which is why I've posted, but I was just passing a body shop and stopped in to ask, and so I was now wondering if wet sanding would do more harm than good.

[dbs600]

Thanks all of the info, MERKSuk. Before setting up an account, I decided to e-mail the site administrator and ask for recommendations directly. I Haven't heard back, so I'll go forth and register. Otherwise, I'll also have to snap some pictures when the car is clean and in direct sunlight and post. Thanks again.

[ceb]

Originally Posted by dbs600

Thanks ceb; it's not that I don't want to take your advice; I do, which is why I've posted, but I was just passing a body shop and stopped in to ask, and so I was now wondering if wet sanding would do more harm than good.

Understood but you need to remember to start with the least agressive method first. Wetsanding is not for swirl removal - assuming that your definition of swirl is the same as mine.

[dbs600]

Got it!

And, just posted this: http://www.detailingbliss.com/forum/...rk-removal.htm

Let's see if anyone bites...

[dbs600]

Here are some pictures of the marks. It actually looks worse in person when walking up to the car from a distance. How severe would this be considered?

[Breach]

If you're the DIY type buy or rent a dual-action polisher and some proper polish - e.g. Meguiar's ultra compound and the less aggressive stuff. You have to educate yourself about polishes, proper way to handle a polisher, paint thickness,etc. It's not that hard to polish your car, but you have to know the basics. If too much hassle - take it to a professional detailer. As a side note - you can't do this too often - polishing effectively removes part of the car paint's clearcoat. After you get an 'as new' look be careful how you wash it - there are plenty of good tutorials - look up two buckets method, never go to automated car washes etc. You won't completely eliminate swirls but you can minimise them.

Check this out:
http://www.polishedbliss.co.uk/acata...re-advice.html

[snj1013]

From the pictures, I would say whoever told you that you need to wetsand doesn't know much about paint.

Your car's paint just needs to be polished. As others have recommended, get an orbital polisher and educate yourself, or find a good detailer.

[gatoman39]

Wetsanding to remove swirls?
You just need someone to clay, polish and wax the car, that's it. Those swirls don't look like buffer marks to me, they look like typical marring from improper washing.

My New Car Prep Process: BMW 550

[dbs600]

Originally Posted by gatoman39

Those swirls don't look like buffer marks to me, they look like typical marring from improper washing.My New Car Prep Process: BMW 550

Thank you for your help gentlemen; wet sanding, a no go then! By the way, the marks appear much worse in person and were caused by a power buffer.

[P1]

Looking at your pictures, a wetsand is not required. Looks like some improper rotary work, which is actually quite common. These can be removed with a Porter Cable 7424XP or a Flex XC 3401, which are both DA units (the Flex being forced DA).

If you enjoy taking care of your vehicle, this can be easily performed at home by yourself. Detailers Domain sells some nice kits. I personally would recommend starting with the green Uber pad and Menzerna Super Finish. It's probably the best "one step" correction out there.

Let me know if you have any further questions, I'm a mod on Detailing Bliss also.

[ceb]

Anybody who suggested wetsanding is a complete dolt and just validates my point that ealers and bodyshops are clueless about paint care.

It is very simple

Wash, clay, polish and wax. If you don't want to do it yourself then get a good detailer to do it but do not let anybody wetsand that.

[sprice]

Doesn't look too bad at all. Should be able to remove this with ease.

[Protodetailing]

Yeah very many people high speed cars with no knowledge how to use them and leave buffer swirls up and down the car. Where are you located?

[andy91006]

anyone knows how much wetsanding costs?