07-27-2013, 10:26 PM | #1 |
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Impressed by the M5, and disappointed by other cars
Test drove the 911 Carrera 4s and the Jag F Type S V8. Now that I have the M5, I decided a 2 door coupe would be a great buy.
First the 911 Carrera 4s. It is a great car, great noise, great handling. The only problem I realized is how lazy the M5 made me. With all that torque the M5 just goes from any gear. Sometimes on long and curvy roads, 2nd and 3rd gear is all you really need. The Porsche on the other hand has to be reved. After it hits 4k RPM, yeah it takes off, but before 4k RPM I really expected a but more. I would love to have more torque from a lower range. Of course the price is something I do not understand as well. 125k! For something slower (straight line), less comfortable, and less usable for everyday driving. The Jag F type. Nice car. Not as good as the Porsche, but my god what a sound! It is just loud and obnoxious, and will get the whole neighborhood pissed off. Its interior, just like the Porsche, is okay. The Jag loves to drift, its a RWD car after all. I didnt like the brakes, or the suspension set up. Its just to loose on the road. Not to mention the price tag on this car is 105k So after test driving those cars, it makes me wonder... is it even worth getting a coupe sports car? I feel like the M5 is better than the Jag, and faster than the 911 4s in a straight line, and still handles exceptionally well for such a large car. After all, what I realized is that either the cars are too expensive, or BMW is just to generous with their prices. The M5 really is the best compromise between performance and luxury. |
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07-27-2013, 11:02 PM | #4 |
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lol! This was EXACTLY my experience with Porsche. No FUN unless you're really revved. The massive pull in all ranges that the M car delivers really spoils you. I ended up ordering a 2014 F13 M6 (trading my F10) to park next to our F12 convertible.
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07-27-2013, 11:21 PM | #5 |
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Love the M6, just not sure if its worth having almost 2 similar cars. But I rather take the M6 over the SL550. I dont like the styling Mercedes has gone to. They look so weird. Only Mercedes I do like is the SLS 63 AMG Black series, but that is out of my price range.
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The Porsche really surprised me! I took off, and immediately thought to myself.... is this all it has to offer? Then I remembered it is an NA engine and needs to be reved. So I gave it a chance. Really fun car, but nahhh I rather take the massive Torque from ///M. One thing that surprised me, was I did some corners at 70 to 80 MPH with the Porsche, got in the M5, and did the same corners at about the same speed, with a harder pull on the exit. Also, I found the DCT in the M5 on Sports + more exciting, than the PDK... |
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07-28-2013, 12:00 AM | #7 |
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I test drove the F-type V8 today. Great exterior and interior styling, ridiculous engine and exhaust noise, V8 engine IMO over powers the balance of the car.
I've also driven the 911 S convertible and coupe, but I still keep coming back to my M5. I've come to the conclusion that the M5 is the best car at 100K, to drive another car of similar performance and feel, you have to spend 140k+ (porsche GT3, Audi R8 V10, etc.). |
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07-28-2013, 08:13 AM | #8 |
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I was trying to talk myself all talked into getting a new 911 next weekend. I have a feeling i'll back off after the test drive. I backed off after the test drive a couple years ago, that was before the M5- I had a 550i.
Unless you're getting a turbo or the GT3.... if you can pull off the second car, then maybe. I can't - I only have 3700 miles on my M5, and my wife will hit me with too many questions.
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07-28-2013, 09:16 AM | #10 |
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I drove a 991S and was bored to tears. Agree that the PDK in that car is not as good as the M-DCT.
Next, I got in a manual Boxtser Spyder. I know Boxsters suck. Except the Spyder is not a typical Boxster. That car blew (still blows) my mind. I bought it. It's 180 degrees from the M5. No torque, but the best handling car I've ever driven. In fact, it's the most fun car I've ever owned. It gets driven while the M5 sits and loses battery voltage. Of course, the Spyder doesn't even have a roof, so can't compete as the only car someone would own. So, the GT3 is of great interest for me. But only if the car is as raw as the Spyder, and PDK-S is truly fast. Videos seem to indicate that it will be. Regardless, the M5 is an amazing car and I agree the best all rounder out there.
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I am bursting with anticipation for the arrival of my 2014 AB M5 due by the end of August. Only 1 month left with my faithful & fun C63 AMG.
Have never really driven an M5 (only short test), so hard to make direct comparisons. But have driven C4S extensively and I love that car. Borrow my buddies's a week at a time, and spent 3 days at Porsche winter driving school really pushing the limits. Totally different from M5 in terms of function, comfort levels and torque. But push that Sport+ button and everything becomes super-sensitive. Engine and steering responsiveness are immediate. Suspension lowers and tightens and noise is in your ears(not piped in) Added benefit in my part of the world is secure all-season driving with 4wd. Sure the M5 might make you feel spoilt because you don't have to shift as often due to the torque, but some call that driver involvement. Looking forward to a beautiful relationship with coming M5(power & practicality) but if I were in the market for a coupe, can't think of much I'd prefer to C4S(emotional connection & nimble handling & AWD) |
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07-28-2013, 11:52 AM | #13 |
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Interesting points, and I agree with most on the comparison. However, they're two different cars. I have both, and at first I said why did I buy the 911S because of the torque difference. The 911 has to be in the higher revs, but it gets there quick, and I have the 7 speed manual which I love to drive. The M5 I have the DCT, but I have been spending more time in the Porsche as the feel is second to none. By the way if you look at the track time on the new 991S compared to the previous GT3 they're pretty close.
The Porsche is for my alone time, and I want to ride through the twisties, and it's a beautiful car to say the least. Long term I will keep the Porsche longer than M5 just for the driving feel, and the engine sound is insane. Just my two cents. I have less than 4000 miles on the M5, and 500 on the Porsche so more testing to be done. |
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I always feel the same way when getting into one of my M cars after leaving a Porsche dealership or talking to a Porsche salesperson. After commenting to one salesman about hoe the M was so much more powerful than the Porsche, one salesperson at Porsche says to me "well we both know HAT'S not all there is to driving a car". REALLY? I get that-like luxury and comfort-both things lacking in the Porsche. I suppose that I am one of those old guys who just loves the thrill of a powerful, well-mannered yet comfortable and luxurious car too...and happy to be so Last edited by ColdList; 07-28-2013 at 02:25 PM.. |
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I went with the DCT. Now here I am on the verge of ordering a Competition Package M5, and again I am facing the dilemma of 6MT or DCT. DCT is amazing, but I am finding my driving experience missing something. My worst fear is that I get a 6MT and I hate it. As the DCT is not a bad choice to live with. LOL. I love my E39 and I think that... well the F10 6MT experience can't be worse than that.
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07-28-2013, 05:30 PM | #21 |
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Can't believe you're getting rid of the M5 you have one of the hotteson eon's on the board man! The Porsche will keep BMW honest, and know they have to always stay on their game. It is a check magnet shhhhhhhhhhhhh(:
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-Mike p.s. A "check" magnet is right with the Porsche! I was building the new Turbo (non-"S") on line and I was mid $170s even with leaving out some options-yikes! I am hoping that when it does come out in December that I don't even tempt myself into driving one-could be extremely dangerous to my checkbook. Last edited by ColdList; 07-28-2013 at 06:50 PM.. |
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