iND/AMS Alpha F10 M5 Tuning Program Testing and Datalogging Update. 1,000+ HP Goal!

[vladberca]

What an awesome project

[SeebaE90]

Originally Posted by Nate@IND

Just had my hands on a set of AMS F10 M5 downpipes today (catless)

Maan, that is some solid welding! Really good looking!

[Nate@IND]

Originally Posted by SeebaE90

Maan, that is some solid welding! Really good looking!

Thanks! Here are some shots with the catted AMS downpipes.

[Used2be]

Originally Posted by Nate@IND

Thanks! Here are some shots with the catted AMS downpipes.

Great photos to see comparison of catted downpipes and downpipes without the cats. With the larger 5" cat is there any slight moving of heat shielding or wiring that has to be done? I sure would like to hear more about the ESS tune for use with the catless down pipes. Is it not already installed on your Beast?

[M54ccibo]

I'm with you @Used2be, except I'd probably be going catted for personal reasons.

[Nate@IND]

Originally Posted by Used2be

Great photos to see comparison of catted downpipes and downpipes without the cats. With the larger 5" cat is there any slight moving of heat shielding or wiring that has to be done? I sure would like to hear more about the ESS tune for use with the catless down pipes. Is it not already installed on your Beast?

All factory heat shielding works with both AMS catted and non catted down pipes. We are currently running the catless AMS downpipes + Eisenmann full with the Race level. I will have a sound clip up today.

[BLACK MARKT]

With the non catted dp set .. is there any odor in the cabin?

Originally Posted by Nate@IND

All factory heat shielding works with both AMS catted and non catted down pipes. We are currently running the catless AMS downpipes + Eisenmann full with the Race level. I will have a sound clip up today.

[Nate@IND]

Originally Posted by BLACK MARKT

With the non catted dp set .. is there any odor in the cabin?

No smell in the cabin at all. Wait until you hear the catless setup

[Used2be]

Originally Posted by Nate@IND

We are currently running the catless AMS downpipes + Eisenmann full with the Race level. I will have a sound clip up today.

Thanks for the reply. Do you have any experience with how the ESS tune is working with your catless downpipes? Is it a comfortable, streetable driving experience? Does the CEL light remain off and has the 155 mph speed limit been defeated?

I know all the various testing modes take time to accomplish, but do you intend to test the ESS tune and catless downpipes with an otherwise stock exhaust system in place? I am very curious as to how the stock system sounds with the cats removed. Appreciate, and look forward to, your updates.

[Rich65]

Originally Posted by Nate@IND

All factory heat shielding works with both AMS catted and non catted down pipes. We are currently running the catless AMS downpipes + Eisenmann full with the Race level. I will have a sound clip up today.

Cant wait to hear it Nate..

[1º]

any updates with the clip nate?!

[M54ccibo]

Originally Posted by Nate@IND

All factory heat shielding works with both AMS catted and non catted down pipes. We are currently running the catless AMS downpipes + Eisenmann full with the Race level. I will have a sound clip up today.

This is gonna be good...and make me part with more $

[yiango13]

During my last visit to iND I heard this in person and it sounds sounds amazing. Cold start is really loud. Can't wait to hear it again!

[RPiM5]

Originally Posted by yiango13

During my last visit to iND I heard this in person and it sounds sounds amazing. Cold start is really loud. Can't wait to hear it again!

Won't be louder than what I've got.

[aus]

Nice job IND. Please post catted and catless dyno's.
How many cpi are the cats? I believe stock are 600cpi?

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[M54ccibo]

Heard the IND beast at Bimmerfest today. Thanks Andrew for firing it up. While it is indeed loud, the exhaust note is still very refined and definitely retains the E-race tone...with added volume and turbo spooling!

I was on the fence about going catless, but hearing it in person makes me think again about potentially going that direction. I still am definitely interested in seeing what happens when the catted pipes go on the car, in both volume and potential HP gains.

Sorry I missed meeting you Nate. Next time!

[Used2be]

Originally Posted by M54ccibo

Heard the IND beast at Bimmerfest today. Thanks Andrew for firing it up.

I was on the fence about going catless, but hearing it in person makes me think again about potentially going that direction.

Thanks for your report on the exhaust. With the cats out of the way, I am very curious as to how the stock system will sound. It probably won't have the tone of the aftermarket mufflers, but if it just becomes a little more 'present' that will be enough for me. Did Andrew mention anything about the ESS tune? Have they been able to avoid the display of warnings on the dash with the cats out of the system?

[M54ccibo]

Originally Posted by Used2be

Thanks for your report on the exhaust. With the cats out of the way, I am very curious as to how the stock system will sound. It probably won't have the tone of the aftermarket mufflers, but if it just becomes a little more 'present' that will be enough for me. Did Andrew mention anything about the ESS tune? Have they been able to avoid the display of warnings on the dash with the cats out of the system?

Based on what I heard, my guess is that the stock system will definitely be louder with downpipes. How much of the tone will remain is anyones guess, but based on the current IND setup I'd be inclined to think it will retain its tone. Hoping that is a case with my exhaust too.

Regarding the tune I spoke with Andrew and ESS directly. They are all said exactly the same thing...it is coming but have no solid timeframe or date. The IND car is headed to ESS now for more work...which is really good IMHO. Definitely going to have a CEL without a tune on the catless and unknown if the catted AMS pipe will throw a CEL as they have not been installed on a car.

[ImpetuousRacer]

Should jet hot coat those dp's.

[Rob///M5]

Originally Posted by RPiM5

Won't be louder than what I've got.

No question about that!

[SeebaE90]

I am blown away by the craftsmanship. I can't wait for the finished project.

For now, I think a video will work when you'll be able to upload it.

Still ... big thumbs up!!

[noushy]

I just received these beauties and all I can say is wow. Get your wallets out you won't be disappointed. My mild mannered M6 reminds me of an AMS Alpha GTR now.


Peace
Noushy