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Huh? That makes no sense. Holmes was a well-armed citizen who killed 12 people. There is no distinction between a good or bad well-armed citizen obviously. He made that very clear, didn't he?
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Your post makes zero sense. Are you implying that every well-armed citizen has the ability to walk into a room and kill 12 people? Quit focusing on the weapon, and think a little outside of the box. He could've walked in with an ax and done just as much.
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Lets ban chainsaws while we're at it, wouldn't want a crazed citizen to reenact the chainsaw massacre. Baseball bats, too. Wouldn't want a crazed Mets fan to go crazy at Dick's Sporting Goods.
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why wouldn't they have the ability? And what would keep any argument or road rage incident from turning deadly? And an ax would've killed one, then the guy would've been taken down.
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Did you not read my stats on Australia? There was a mass killing in Canada not too long ago, not legal to carry there, either. Bottom line is guns are far from the problem. The person carrying it is. You can't tell if someone has the intent on being a murder when buying a gun, because the human psych is invisible to most. All he had to do, was carry one small pistol, lock the theater door after he reentered, and pointed the gun at anyone that came near him, while using the ax to do what he planned. No one would of known the difference between movie scream, and dying screams. If you're going to argue gun laws, think a little bit farther than bullets leave a gun and kill people, therefore guns kill people. Also, pull stats on the countries that have adapted the laws you wish would come into effect.
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So silly and you're moving away from the focal point because you're in a no win situation. Again, you want to compare a tool used to cut lumbar to one that was essentially created to kill or maim a person or animal.
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I mock people with terrible arguments, hence my sarcasm.
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Bringing up lumbar tools when the discussion is firearms that were designed to kill multiple people with one pull of the trigger is in fact you averting and desperately reaching to stay relevant in a discussion.
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I guess it should be more restricted. Why would any citizen be allowed to buy 2 guns, a rifle and a shot gun over a span of 2 months, I mean come on, this should ring a f**** bell.
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If you want to get technical, he used a shotgun that is built for hunting, so it's exactly like my mockery.
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Outlaw swords at Comi-con too, since they were used for centuries to kill living things, am I following your argument now?
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Just give up man. You haven't posted one thing to back your opinion other than guns were built to kill living things--which you misconstrue as other people, which I'd love to see evidence of. They were designed for hunting, and fighting wars--JUST like the weapons that preceded guns, that are commercially available to anyone over 16. I for one CAN provide evidence that swords, ax's, and bats(clubs) were used in battles to kill other humans. Yet those things are just as easily bought, even by CONVICTED murders. You completely ignore the argument by dwelling on sarcasm, rather than admit I'm right. Are swords not just as dangerous in the correct hands? Murders use guns because they are the easiest to get the job done, take them off the planet, they'll use the next best thing. And then we'll be arguing sword laws. Outlaw them, and they will just order them from 1000 different black market connections, and ONLY criminals will have them. You say guns are bad, but you won't look past what you want to happen, and see what would happen if your wish was granted. You'd have the SAME amount of criminals, SAME amount of guns in the wrong hands, and ZERO guns in anyone else's hands other than law officials, which we all know are omnipotent and can be everywhere at once.
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plain and simple...any human motivated to kill can and will be sucessful
the tools and manner of death is secondary...be it a handgun, nitrogen bomb (tim mcveigh) cyanide gas, commercial airplane...you name the weapon... You are free to surrender your civil liberties for the allusion of safety...just don't take mine
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What's up with people like you coming on forums claiming victory when your entire posts are absent of any real content. Big deal, you post someone else's data. And? Wow you make an adolescent comparison between guns and a lumber tool. You call that good work? You will not win one argument pertaining to guns if all you have is to segue into other discussions comparing objects that can also be used to kill people if the person doing the killing really has a violent nature. This position is one of the dumbest and hollowest pro-gun arguments that always come up. If you look at the design and functionality of a firearm, like the one's we see daily used to kill other humans, you wouldn't be desperately trying to move the focus to firearms that are not of topic like the ones you mentioned. No one is trying to ban bb-guns, or freakin' muskets, for crying out-loud. Stay focused. Besides, hunting and wars are not of topic which you are having great difficultly staying on. We are talking about a legally license individual arming himself and flipping out on a mass of people. That's the topic. Not ancient wars. Not duck hunting. Not hammers or nail-guns. Get with it or go somewhere else to play. Quote:
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Let's hear from you what would happen if gun control was enacted. I'm interested in what evidence you have that states success.
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Wow! So, you don't see hunting as a violent act, regardless of necessity, toward a living animal? You don't see wars as a violent act toward another person, country, faction, entity? Hey, genius. Gun control has already been enacted. LMAO You are completely missing the theme in this gun debate. You completely do not understand what's at the core of a gun and what they are used for. |
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