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European Delivery trip route ideas and discussions
I would love to hear some great route ideas for the ED trip. Especially some great scenic drives on high quality tarmac - I think Matthew EW had some ideas. I don't know many passes so it would be great if we can all share some advice to get the most out of our M5 European Delivery experience.
What scenic drives/passes should we explore?
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My current plan is to do Grossglockner/Salzburg, Stelvio/Bormio/Davos
Silvretta/Lech am Arlberg, Garmisch Partenkirchen/Mittenwald, Kesselberg / Kochel am See Started to map it on Google maps to get an idea how much I can really fit into 4-5 days Also plan to visit Alpina, G-Power, M Studio along the way. As a quick teaser I've created a map for Munich to Kochelsee, Garmisch , stop at Kloster Ettal (nice beergarden) near Garmisch, head to Starnberg (beautiful lake) and stop at Seeshaupt (plenty of nice cafes/beer gardens) , head along the Starnberg lake and back on the highway to Munich. All in all a ~160mls/4hr trip ... http://goo.gl/maps/D3Jv A couple of options coming from Munich Grossglockner (appr 2.5hrs from Munich/relatively close to Salzburg) http://www.grossglockner.at/en/hochalpenstrasse/ Stelvio Pass (appr 3.5/4hrs from Munich / 1.5hrs from Innsbruck) http://www.bormio3.com/stelvio-pass/ http://www.ultimatedrives.net/routes...route_ID=30003 Silvretta Pass (appr 3hrs from Munich/1.5hrs from Davos) http://www.galtuer.com/silvretta-pas...ne-road.en.htm http://www.ultimatedrives.net/routes...route_ID=40010 and very close to Munich (less than an hour) is Kesselberg (Kochel am See) which is a great driving road. Something you can even do the same day after delivery http://www.bestbikingroads.com/motor...am-_67779.html A few more suggestions/options http://www.ultimatedrives.net/routes/index.php http://www.ultimatedrives.net/routes...ute_RegionID=1 - Jan
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I will be heading south from Munich to Northern Italy through some major and minor passes -- major passes such as Glossglockner, Gotthard, San Bernadino, and Stelvio Passes.
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Thanks to the brilliant idea from jmh, I have changed my original route which was long and went to Genoa and Monaco.
Now I have less driving, more passes, and more sightseeing which should please my family. Vacation agenda: 9/14-9/15: Westin Grand Munich (Factory Tour, M5 delivery at Welt) 9/15-9/17:*Sheraton Fuschlsee-Salzburg *Lake Resort (Drve there via Grossglockener, Visit Salzburg, Berchtesgaden, boat ride to Konigsee, jennerbahn to summit) 9/17-9/18: Sheraton Davos (Drive Stelvio Pass to Davos) just spend night in Davos and leave in AM for Zurich via Silvretta Pass. 9/18-9/20: Park Hyatt*Zurich: tour Zurich and also visit Basle and Berne 9/20-21: Le Meridien Stuttgart (visit Hohenzollern Castle) 9/21-9/23: Westin Grand Munich (arrive morning of 21st - visit Dingolfing Factory) *Do checkin at Loginout Saturday AM. *See Castle Neuschwanstein Saturday PM, fly out 9/23) I am debating cutting out the Davos Stelvio piece since that's an entire day, and instead doing 2 days in Stuttgart and going to Nurburgring. What do you guys think? Anyone else have any great route ideas/itineraries to share?
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I think BarryB and I are going to go to Southern Germany on Saturday then head back to Munich, on Sunday go to the Nurburgring, stay the night up there. I am back to Munich on Monday since I have to drop my car off at 4pm. We fly out on Tuesday.
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I think we're doing the following for a quick trip:
8/31 arrive and do Welt tour, hang out in Munich (probably do the Hofbrauhaus Munchen) 9/1 pick up, drive to Dachau (concentration camp memorial), then drive to Hohenschwangau (castles, lakes, museums, hikes) 9/2 quick drive through a little of Austria, then drive to The Eagles Nest (Bergtesgaden), then drive back to Munich 9/3 drop off and fly back Short trip, but hopefully some good drives, cool sites, and great beer! |
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On my first ED I left Munich and drove all the way to Monaco. I was utterly exhausted when I arrived. This time I am doing less driving and more relaxing. IMO, you did the right thing by cutting it out. |
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Anyone with experience see any major problems with this itinerary?
Saturday Sep 22: Arrive MUN 1105am Check into Marriot Munich (need to decide which hotel we want to stay at) We currently have RES at 2 hotels Hit Ofest sat afternoon/night Sunday Sep 23: Get up and explore munich/Ofest again by train/foot (maybe drive to M5 factory??) Stay 2nd night in MUN Monday Sep 24: Check in at BMW Welt at 8:00am for ED Factory Tour and Delivery. Drive to Dingolfing for tour ? Drive to Dachau (30km), take tour and have lunch etc Drive to Stuttgart (206km). Hang out, dinner/drinks/hotel Porsche museum/factory if time Tuesday Sep 25: Porsche Factory/Museum tour (if no time day before) Drive to Nurburgring (325km) Drive or ride on the “ring” Hotel in Nurgurgring or nearby (suggestions??) Wed Sep 26: Drive to Prague (676km) Kick it in praha Hotel in Praha Thur Sep 27: Kick women out of hotel room Drive to Salzburg (338km) (good idea?? any other place to check out between Praha and MUN??) Hang out in Salzburg Hotel in Salzburg Friday Sep 28: Drive to Munich (145km) Drop off Cars for shipment. Last day/night in MUN Hotel in MUN near airport? Sat Sep 29: Fly out 7am Peeeeeeeeze OUT!!
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After 4 ED deliveries of 14 day duration's each across much of Europe including 3 trips on Nurburgring, our 14 day route on this delivery will be from Munich leaving Sunday, 9/2 thru the Umbral and Stelvio passes to Bolzano, to Modena and Ferrari then to Portoroz, Slovenia. From there we drive to Budapest for a few days, then Brno, Czeck and on to Dresden and end our trip in Hamburg where we will drop the new M5 off for boat loading at Bremerhaven
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9/3 fly out
9/4 arrive Munich. Check in to Platzl Hotel Drink eat and party my and my wife's ass off 9/5 sleep in until noon (we have a 17 month old and haven't slept in for 17 months!) Sight see or hang out rest of day 9/6 tour and "pick up" car. Immediately give keys back and go play on our last night 9/7. Sleep in again!! Fly out that afternoon Zero driving. |
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Very good point. We are now looking at a southern route possibly through the Stelvio pass. We need 4 fun places to stay over on a southern route that lands us back in Munich Friday. Hmmm. Since this is a Mancation and we are leaving the women at home we don't want to hang out in romantic towns with nothing going on. Any cool obvious places to stay on the southern fun driving loop?
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According to SPIEGEL Online:
Großglockner-Hochalpenstraße Austria Col de Turini on the Western end of the Alps (French Sea-Alps) France Nufenenpass, Switzerland Malojapass Italy + Switzerland Deutsche Alpenstraße Germany Brenta-Runde Italy Silvretta-Hochalpenstraße Austria Achenpass Germany+Austria Lech-Warth Austria-Germany Complete article here: http://www.spiegel.de/auto/aktuell/0...779802,00.html
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If I may interject, a browse through some of our homepage features on European Delivery trips may help with some of your plans and routes.
You can find the ED features @ http://www.bimmerpost.com/europeandelivery/
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One thing any first time ED-er should keep in mind is driving over here is very exhausting mentally. IF you are use to driving say 200 miles in on day in the states... plan on trips of 200 ~ 300 kms or so. Think of 1 Km = 1 mile (even though its not! 1 km = 0.6 miles) but driving over here is really hard on your body and mind. Plus you have a new car and its best to stick to the back (Bundesstrasse) roads (100 kph) and take it easy for the first few days. Don't exceed 170 kph and your diff will thank you later. Porsche has put together some nice scenic drives for their ED customers. Porsche’s Tips for ED driving tours of Germany… http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...=porsche+tours You can also check out my ED museum & 1addicts @Stelvio threads below on my signature. My other tip would be travel anywhere South of Munich and you will have a blast! Italy is only a little bit over an hour away. Austria and Switzerland also very close by. Dackel
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Is anybody following the trip packages suggested by BMW?
http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...eOverview.aspx This Oct is my first ED and since I am not too familiar with Germany, I am thinking picking one of the 5 days trips. Has anyone done it and any advise? |
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